I'm surprised that no one has complained about this
thread getting so far off course.

It does make for fascinating reading though.



--- John P Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At about the time our original 13 states adopted
> their new constitution, 
> in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish
> history professor at The 
> University of Edinborough) had this to say about
> "The Fall of The Athenian 
> Republic" some 2,000 years prior: 
> 
> "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it
> simply cannot exist as a 
> permanent form of government. A democracy will
> continue to exist up until 
> the time that voters discover that they can vote
> themselves generous gifts 
> from the public treasury. From that moment on, the
> majority always votes 
> for the candidates who promise the most benefits
> from the public treasury, 
> with the result that every democracy will finally
> collapse due to loose 
> fiscal policy, which is always followed by a
> dictatorship." 
> 
> "The average age of the worlds greatest
> civilizations from the beginning 
> of history, has been about 200 years. During those
> 200 years, these 
> nations always progressed through the following
> sequence: 
> 
> From Bondage to spiritual faith; 
> From spiritual faith to great courage; 
> From courage to liberty; 
> From liberty to abundance; 
> From abundance to complacency; 
> From complacency to apathy; 
> From apathy to dependence; 
> From dependence back into bondage." 
> John Donnelly
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> 
> 
> "Steve Grimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> 
> I think R. J. Rummel's "Death by Government" shines
> the light of 
> statistics on this question.
> 
> Stg
> 
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