One of the problems with the hardware approach is the inability of MVS to
bring the CHPID back online automagically when this is done.

Case in point:  I played the hardware side in order to trace cables to a
disk device.  CF'd one at a time OFF/ON looking for the (non)blinking
lights.  Got to the last cable, and the MVS's came down. (whoops!).  VM
responded as you would think MVS should have. <g>

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:50 -0800, Edward Jaffe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Shane wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 11:56 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Performing routine configuration tasks from the SE can be problematic.
>>>
>>
>> Mmmmm - since when has yanking channels out from operating LPARs been
>> "routine".
>>
>
>The so-called "yanking" of channels is not routine. But, configuring
>them on/offline is. We do it _at least_ twice a day --  sometimes more
>often. And remember, it was not I that suggested the hardware function
>be used instead of the MVS CONFIG command -- it was the z/OS MVS System
>Commands book! All of the hardware books advise against doing this as
>does the APAR referenced by Roy Hewitt (OA17152). It states:
>
>"The Hardware Management Console (HMC) can be used to
> configure a CHPID online or offline. IBM does not recommand
> this practice when the operating system is available, as it
> physically configures the CHPID online or offline but does
> not notify the hosts of this change."
>
>The words I use to describe the recommendation in z/OS MVS System
>Commands are not for use in polite company. An RCF may not be strong
>enough. Perhaps a doc APAR is in order...

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