Steve I'm afraid I have this bad habit of not adding a smiley or a bracketed "g" when I am making a comment which, to me, is sufficiently humourous to not require one.
Note I was quoting a paragraph of yours which was a "Catch 22". You need to check my posts for "misspelled" words which betray the origin of the poster, for example, "humour" for "humor". The "card punch" should have been a giveaway. When did you last see one of these? Chris Mason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Mainframe vs. "Server" (Was Just another example of mainframe costs.) > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chris Mason > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Mainframe vs. "Server" (Was Just another example of > mainframe costs.) > > Steve > > Better hang onto that card reader and line printer then. Maybe a card > punch > is needed for the system generation as well. > > Chris Mason > > <snip> > > I think you missed the point. The mainframe O/Ses already had the > "drivers" (support) for the various graphics devices. Mainframes > (regardless of who made them) had standardized devices and interfaces > (at least true for all the machines I've worked on/with). > > The PCMs had to make sure that their equipment functioned EXACTLY like > the machine/device they were replacing from the big vendor (IBM, Univac, > Honeywell, Burroughs, etc.). So they were plug and use, not plug and > experiment. And if it did come down to that, the PCM was the one > spending the money. > > The "open" systems may have standard interface definitions, but you can > have some real pain with conflicts. And there is NO ONE to sit down and > work it all out, except for the end user. > > However, mainframe systems were typically, plug/generate (or > generate/plug) & USE, or in the case of VTAM, define and VARY... > > For "open" systems, this is yet another hidden cost. > > Regards, > Steve Thompson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

