Steve

I'm afraid I have this bad habit of not adding a smiley or a bracketed "g"
when I am making a comment which, to me, is sufficiently humourous to not
require one.

Note I was quoting a paragraph of yours which was a "Catch 22".

You need to check my posts for "misspelled" words which betray the origin of
the poster, for example, "humour" for "humor".

The "card punch" should have been a giveaway. When did you last see one of
these?

Chris Mason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Mainframe vs. "Server" (Was Just another example of mainframe
costs.)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chris Mason
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:20 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mainframe vs. "Server" (Was Just another example of
> mainframe costs.)
>
> Steve
>
> Better hang onto that card reader and line printer then. Maybe a card
> punch
> is needed for the system generation as well.
>
> Chris Mason
>
> <snip>
>
> I think you missed the point. The mainframe O/Ses already had the
> "drivers" (support) for the various graphics devices. Mainframes
> (regardless of who made them) had standardized devices and interfaces
> (at least true for all the machines I've worked on/with).
>
> The PCMs had to make sure that their equipment functioned EXACTLY like
> the machine/device they were replacing from the big vendor (IBM, Univac,
> Honeywell, Burroughs, etc.). So they were plug and use, not plug and
> experiment. And if it did come down to that, the PCM was the one
> spending the money.
>
> The "open" systems may have standard interface definitions, but you can
> have some real pain with conflicts. And there is NO ONE to sit down and
> work it all out, except for the end user.
>
> However, mainframe systems were typically, plug/generate (or
> generate/plug) & USE, or in the case of VTAM, define and VARY...
>
> For "open" systems, this is yet another hidden cost.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Thompson

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