I agree with you fully Mark. My point was we both would have missed the ptf. And for the icing on the cake the ptf (in my case UA28410) was superseded by another ptf (UA90306). The newer one does have a DOC hold and some IPL holds but nothing in the ptf would lead you to be concerned about tape retention and SMS. To protect our data centers are we forced to check all ptf's that apply AND all superseded ptf's? I don't have any great answers, just great concerns.
Alan Schwartz Assurant Shared Business Services Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU> 02/27/2007 10:41 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU> To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Warning on IBM APAR OA17011 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:29:05 -0600, Alan Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So I'm asking the group "when you're applying preventative maintenance do >you read and analyze the cover information for every ptf being applied?" Absolutely not. If I had that much free time (or anyone else in the group), we wouldn't be needed to begin with. I think it's debatable whether you need to read all ++DOC holds or not. I personally always have because I usually learn something (a new command or operand to an existing command, new parmlib option, etc.). But by definition, doc holds should be just that - doc. The problem is, sometimes holds that should really be ++ACTION come in under ++DOC. It is up to the person / group that packages the PTF to do it correctly or if it is a gray area they should err on the side of caution and package it with a ++ACTION hold. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html ************************************************************************************** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ************************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
