Welcome to the real world, R.S. I gather that the environment or industry in which you work hasn't been doing business data processing for enough years for entrenchment of old technology to be an issue. Over the next 20+ years you will perhaps understand some of the issues I've been raising after you have to deal with them yourself.

Changing procedures within your own company when you have a large application base CAN be a big deal, but do-able when those within your company respect your expertise and you can make a valid case. But, we are talking here about procedures for exchanging data with other installations controlled by other entities. Time and time again over the last 30+ years we have found cases where you have minimal influence in forcing other companies to commit time and resources to making changes, even when they are mutually beneficial! A companion problem is that those companies using down-level technology for data exchange also seem less likely to have in-house skills for implementing (or in some cases even discussing) new technology.

Technologies used for corporate DR purposes or for internal use only are a totally different game, and here the economics of high-speed, high-density tape methods and tape stacking make excellent sense, and in fact our initial investment in 3590E drives was justified totally by DR requirements. The only other site capabilities that enter the picture here are the capabilities of your DR vendor, but they have to stay relatively current in order to compete.

Unless you are in an industry that requires very short DR recovery times, DR techniques using remote DASD and high-speed remote data links rather than off-site tape are still too expensive to justify economically, even though they may be elegant from a technical standpoint. If your company doesn't own a hot recovery site, remote DASD is also impractical with many DR vendors in the U.S., where vendors generally don't guarantee which of many recovery sites you might be using in the event of a real disaster.

Data exchange electronically is no barrier to obsolescence. One of the obsolete data exchange methods that persisted with some of our customers l-o-n-g after its prime used BTAM protocol over 4800 and 9600 baud modems! Whatever technique you are using for electronic data exchange today will be obsolete in 10 years, but some sites will persist in using/requiring it for years afterwards.

If a CART is lost or potentially stolen, one has to assume the worst and that the data is compromised (unless, of course, all sensitive data is encrypted); but the reality is that few individuals encountering such a tape would know what it was, and even fewer would have access to the sites with hardware able to read it. DVD media is readable on well over 100M private PCs world wide, and if a DVD with unencrypted data were to fall into the wrong hands, the odds are high that sensitive data could and would be exploited. One should use similar methods to secure data on either media; but should you fail to do so and the media is lost, DVDs have a much greater exposure.

R.S. wrote:
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
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Yes, DVD capacity is greater than the compressed capacity of a 3490 cartridge and cheaper than a 3490 cartridge, but ... few shops have the capability of writing or reading DVD data to or from MVS without manual file transfer being done by someone, versus tape availability to automated batch and long-established procedures for physical security of tapes. Manual file transfer methods may be acceptable when dealing with one or two transfers, but this is not a reliable or practical technique for a large shop with many transfers.

Procedures can be changed. It's really no big deal. Insted of mounting tape (MANUAL PROCEDURE!) a DVD is inserted into a drive. It can be even better automated than with the tape. Imagine autorun.inf on the DVD running ftp script - operator inserts DVD, sees "please wait" and "thank you, now remove your DVD". Or without autorun, simply insert and click the icon (or issue a command when in text mode). Or insert a DVD, and run the very same job as it was last 20 years, ...but instead of IEBGENER it runs FTP (a PC is running ftp server). Even computer illiterate can manage such a process.


Having your data on a DVD media readily readable and writable by every potential hacker with a PC also introduces additional security breach, data corruption exposures that should first be considered and addressed before using this for exchange of sensitive data.
A cart can be stolen (like DVD). A PC, properly configured and isolated from Internet, etc. is pretty safe.


Many shops may have both 3490E and the newer 3590 capability, but it doesn't make economic sense to use an expensive 3590 cartridge (also more sensitive to mishandling) when a 3490 cartridge will more than hold all the data (nor does it make economic sense to use dozens of 3490 cartridges when a few 3590 carts will do the job). With relatively small files, the mount/unmount time may be more significant than the actual data transfer rate, and the mount/unmount time of 3590's exceeds than that of 3490 drives.

I don't know real business need for such scenario, but I believe in such cases tape writes should be simply avoided. THe data can reside on DASD, until it's offloaded to a dense media. Inserting 3490E carts during the day is simly waste of time. The data can safely wait on RAD-protected DASD. Additionally it can be "flashcopied", "PRRC-ed", etc. Large amounts of data should be moved to a dense tape, possibly in two copies, possibly in two locations.

The bottom line, however, is you do what is necessary to support required data transfers to customers or government agencies.
That's the case when third party forces you to use obsolete technology.
BTW: I don't know U.S. regulations, but in my country no agency requires any media from private corporation. Data exchange is over the wire.




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Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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