On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:35:06 +0000, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>DASDONLY logstreams don't require CF structures. > >I thought those were going away. Only when basic sysplex does. How do you expect people to run CICS who are not running a || sysplex? Not to mention other subsystems or z/OS components that do or will require logstreams. > >Also, on the point of 'forgetting' to put JCL for creating logstreams into a production/dr library: >1. Why? You're missing the point. As I said - logstream definitions are cumulative, so you could have hundreds of members / jobs that need to be run in order to delete / define them. Even if they were all in a single place, it would be difficult at best to make sure you ran them all or all the correct ones since people tend to save backup members or test members in a PDS. >2. That is a dangerous practice for managing production! > Do you 'forget' to put your Production VSAM control cards in a controlled library? > No, but are all yours in a *single* library? Each application could have their own library where they keep such things. That doesn't mean it isn't production or kept in the proper place. Like I said... it's not only the MVS guys that define logstreams. The CICS guys may keep their definitions in their own library protected from me by RACF (example only). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
