Radoslaw
Oh no, again!
Please, look at www.acronymfinder.com and find what USS can mean. *25
results*. Not two, 25. It is possible for acronym to have multiple
meanings. So, it is not pedantry, it is wrong conviction, there the only
one proper meaning.
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What nonsense! This exchange is taking place in a forum where the
overwhelming subject of discussion is z/OS. Thus 24 out of your vaunted
25[1] results are clearly irrelevant. And the remaining one happens to be
the wrong one! All of which means www.acronymfinder.com is to be treated as
an unreliable resource. Even if it may have its uses, the current discussion
is so very clearly not one of them.
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Assuming, we talk English (I'm trying at least), all of the meanings can
be abbreviated to the same acronym. Unformatted System Services in not
worse or better than Unix System Services or Upload Speed Sense. English
dictionary, i.e. Merriam-Webster will tell you exactly what acronym is.
The definition is clear. There is no clause it have to be approved by IBM
or any other entity.I don's see any reason why we should use IBM-approved
acronyms. More: we use here (on IBM-MAIN) many other acronyms, like BTW,
ITYM, FSVO, PFCSK, VBG to name a few. Some of them have multiple meanings,
none of them is IBM-approved, but we still use them and *understand* them,
don't we ? We also use "semi-official" acronym SMS (should be DFSMS).
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Unformatted System Services dates from around 1975 and is still in current
use, most significantly probably in the context of TN3270 where RFC 2355,
TN3270E, specifically introduced enhancements so that USS messages and
commands could be supported. UNIX System Services dates from sometime in the
'90s. Lots of people involved with IBM networking have got very used to
regarding USS as having the former meaning.
The context is so obviously IBM that the abbreviations *relating to
products* necessarily do or do not have the IBM imprimatur.
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Even IBM books are full of USS in Unix, not VTAM context.
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If you'd do me the courtesy of actually reading my posts, you'd see that I
have already demolished the myth that IBM books support USS to mean UNIX
System Services. No wonder the matter comes up time and time again when
there is such a reluctance actually to face the facts.
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What is *primary* meaning of USS acronym ? Well, it depends. For you and
S.Metz it is always Unformatted System Services. For me and *any mainframe
specialist I ever met personally* it is Unix System Services aka z/OS
UNIX.
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You should get out more!
As I mentioned above, lots of people involved with IBM networking,
prominently Pat O'Keefe, have got very used over a period of up to 20 years
to regarding USS as meaning Unformatted System Services.
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Of course my experience in this area is limited and biased (VTAM is not my
speciality).
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Don't you dabble with TN3270 to some extent? That should bring you into
contact with the true USS.
And your record vis-a-vis VTAM is that of an anti-VTAM bigot as I remind
myself with the "6400 impact printer" thread from last January. Since it's
not your speciality you might have the humility not to comment negatively on
it.
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Maybe like yours.
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Well it so happens my "speciality" did include VTAM. I think something may
have been "lost in translation" here.
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For non-mainframe folks (yes there are a lot of them around us!) it is
United States Ship, like USS Hornet or USS Pampanito.BTW: the last meaning
of USS seems to be "more official" than VTAM-one, since it is used by US
Government and US Army... <vbg>
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The nonsense continues. There was never the slightest indication that the
context was other than that defined by the IBM-MAIN list.
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Again, please, don't tell us what USS is. We know it, we can check it in
acronymfinder.com (or elsewhere), finally we can ask when in doubt.
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Well, as you've shown, you *don't* know it. And I would advise against
relying on www.acronymfinder.com. Probably, if you are expecting an
abbreviation to mean one thing but it doesn't make sense, you should just
ask about it - and I give you the permission to complain that the
abbreviation was misleading/ambiguous. <g>
I hope you've taken on board the point Steve Thompson made. Your "USS"
problem will get handled more efficiently if you spell out UNIX System
Services in full.
Chris Mason
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rank Acronym Meaning
****** USS United States Ship
****** USS United States Senate
****** USS United States Steel
****** USS Unix System Services (IBM)
***** USS United States Swimming
**** USS Under-Seat Steering
**** USS United Seamen's Service
**** USS Uniform Symbology Specification
**** USS Unix Systems Services
**** USS United Star Ship (Star Trek)
*** USS Upload Speed Sense (P2P, eMule)
*** USS Uncorrected Sum of Squares
*** USS Uptake Signal Sequences
*** USS Unique Support Structure
*** USS Upshaw-Schulman Syndrome
*** USS Ultrasonic Soldering
*** USS Unit Supply System
* USS Universal Support System
* USS User Services Subsystem
* USS User Services Support
* USS United State Standard
* USS User Support Subsystem
* USS Uni-Strut Support
* USS Unsynchronized System
* USS USAREUR Support System
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