Mark,

I am fairly sure it was imbedded and in order to get it, you had to also
get CA-JARS (a very bad idea. IBM's Performance Reporter was worse, at
the time, though...LOL). Yup, VERY convenient and useful tool.

Bob Richards 


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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:39:48 -0400, Richards.Bob
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>I think Manage/SMF was one of them. Not content to have a very useful
>product, they imbedded it into CA-JARS. In the last couple of years it
>was been split out again as SMF Director, but they want too many $$$
for
>a functionality that most sysprogs developed a workaround for 20 years
>ago.
>

I used that product at my first job.   I liked it.   It was thrown in as
a
freebie 
with a bunch of other products as part of a huge software contract with
CA 
for one of the MVS environments that supported a bank.  Every CA product
known to man kind ran on that system (years later that helped me when
consulting since I worked with sooooo many CA products).  

Was it part of JARS or just given the JARS brand name?  ISTR it being 
named JARS/SMF.   At any rate, you are correct about the cost.  One of
my
clients was looking at getting it and I remember that the cost seemed
very high.  But it was very convenient to just say "give me SMF data
from
this date to that date" and not worry about data set names, exact run 
times and split offs, 4 weeks in a month or 5, etc. 
  
  
  
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