Why does it bother you? First, there are thousands (tens of thousands?)
of shops that routinely swap sensitive data 7x24 in all forms of media
and transports. And that has been going on for decades. There have been
losses, but never any known exploitation. After all, mf data is very
difficult to read without an intimate knowledge of the record content,
format, and layout. 

Second, the data is originated in the clear and ends up in the clear. It
would not be usable otherwise. To encrypt end to end would require a
rewrite of most every application program, and that's not going to
happen. 

Third, there are not any 'bolt on' mf quality* solutions out there.
We've looked. There are PC based solutions by the bucketful, but we see
security issues on that platform on a seemingly hourly basis. Worse, the
kinds of exploits on a PC are detail captures before the encryption
occurs, making the encryption irrelevant. Encryption is trivial.
Unencryption is not. Key management is a serious challenge. 

Bottom line is that if it were really that easy to do, then we would
have done it years ago. 

*'MF quality' = robust, does not rely on human intervention/interaction,
does not rely on any other platform.         

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Theft of "secure" information (originally: Theft of
mainframe DASD)

..snip

It just bothers me that
with the encryption facilities available today on both mainframe and
distributed system that large entities like the VA and IBM (especially
IBM - they should know better) are allowing data to go outside of their
facilities in the hands of third party vendors unencrypted.  Ok, enough
of my soapbox speech. 

Tom Kelman
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
 




 
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