Barbara, I agree with all you concerns, but would like to attempt to answer your question. Yes, using IPCS in batch is a great tool, however there are times that you need to use IPCS in an iterative fashion, and having interactive access is much better for that. The one thing I would love to see is to have a way to run a batch IPCS job that shares access to the dump directory with the interactive session. I can't count the number of times I submit an IPCS in batch job, continue working, about an hour later I realize the job hasn't finished, I go into SDSF and see that it is swapped out waiting for the enq on the DDIR to be satisified.
Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using IPCS (full screen) in a UNIX shell? I am more concerned with a) the brave new worlds (aka all OMVS stuff): We were given the instruction from IBM to 'dump all jobs with name xyz*' and we soon found out that that is impossible, because there are about 65 of those jobs and the dump command will 'only' dump 15 address spaces. Of course, in the dump we finally sent, the once crucial thing with a number at the end that causes the hang isn't dumped. (And there was no way from the outside to determine what that address space was.) b) the way all OMVS level1/2/3 is handling problem determination: If it's not reproducible at will, too bad for the customer! And even if you can reproduce the problem, let's go back and ask for more and more traces. c) the disappearing skill to read a dump *at all*! It is not a good thing for IBM if the customer can do it better than the 'experts' in level2! Not being a fan of UNIX, can someone enlighten me where the advantage is in running IPCS in a shell (presumably doing command in batch) as opposed to a batch job running those same commands with print noterm? Regards, Barbara Nitz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
