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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/
> >
> >It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat 
> >vague.
> >
> Could the US Patent & Trade Office be coming back into the mainframe
FOLD.
> Back in the 1990s, the PTO (with great fanfare) kicked out the ugly 
> mainframe in favor of running SUN UNIX. So most likely this had to be 
> a System P although if anyone hears anything, would be interested. 
> Maybe it could
be
> something for running Linux on z.

Both System p and System z are built on the same line, by the same
people and packaged into the same crates for shipping. And having taken
the tour of the production facility several times, I can tell you they
are -very- thorough at every step of the way. I would be pretty
skeptical that the packaging of the box had anything to do with whatever
really happened here. 

CC



I've never been to the IBM facility, but I've been on the other end -
running a forklift.  If it happened like the news reports say, it was
definitely operator error, combined with a forklift that was too small
for the pallet that was dropped (which would also have been operator
error - unless some PHB told him to move it anyway...) There is no way a
properly sized forklift should have started "rocking" by going over a
bump.  If it did start rocking, the operator should have set the load
down - which should have only been a couple inches above the floor to
begin with. 

Rex

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