On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:08:34 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

>Yous [sic] premise that ServerPac is somehow exemplary might be your 
opinion [..]

Thus the <rant> and </rant>.  I have not yet had the priviledge of installing 
the aforementioned product, but I hear from my teammates it's not too 
shabby, though some recent maintenance packaging was openly questioned 
(addressed promptly and thoroughly :) ...  There are other good product 
installers out there, IMHO.  BTW, when did you move to NY?

>Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ SMP/E
>zones rather than installing into them. This might be OK for a complete
>reinstall of z/OS. But, I submit that this is *not* the preferred,
>optimal -- or even necessarily the "correct" -- way to add a product to
>an existing pre-configured system!

Interesting choice of words.  I used to look at it as an add-on, but "bypass" 
has merit.  Certainly for individual products, simple SMP/E packaging or PDO 
works.  Even z/OS upgrades might do better with PDO or ServerPac "lite" 
(system refresh).  For those of us that don't do a great job of tidying up, 
periodic system replace can be a good thing.  While I'm not sold on the 
CSI/Zone restore/replace either, I do consider *most* of the rest of 
ServerPac exemplary, yes.

>[..]How great would it be if you could install software on z/OS with the same 
>ease as on other platforms?

Nerdvana.  On the flip side, there is job security to consider...

>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/autonomic/library/ac-sivalue/

Interesting reading, thanks for sharing.  A shame IBM is dragging it's feet - 
I'm 
sure there are reasons, the likes of which *customers* may never understand.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company IT Infrastructure
zSeries Platform Planning, Build & Operations
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