My knowledge of IMS is minimal but I seem to recall there being two flavors
of IMS batch processing

IMS DL/I was usually offline processing where files could not be accessed
concurrently by the onlines

IMS BMP (Batch Message Processing) was where the batch jobs accessed the
data bases through message processing regions similar to online transaction
processors so they could run concurrent with online.



Have a nice day,
Dave Betten
DFSORT Development, Performance Lead
IBM Corporation
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DFSORT/MVSontheweb at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/

IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU> wrote on 05/06/2008
04:09:35 PM:

> It's been a decade or two, but concurrent batch/online was a base
> feature of IMS. Problems included the difficulty in backing out the
> effects of a malfunctioning batch program.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:29 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline
>
> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
> that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.
>
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> "F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We have IMS 9 on z/OS and I am fairly new to the platform and have a
> > vested interest in fixing it. Every night we have batch programs that
> > run which in return keeps our databases offline for a long time and as
> > a result our applications are not available for processing.
> >
> > I want to know why batch programs and databases cannot both be online
> > at the same time ? If the batch programs read the databases, then why
> > are they offline ?
> >
> > Anyways, what are some ways of ensuring that batch jobs and databases
> > can both run and be online at the same time ?
>
> some recent discussions about "overnight batch window" ... which
> requires exclusive access to all the information ... as opposed to
> "online".
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#74 Too much change opens up
> financial fault lines
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#92 CPU time differences for the
> same job
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#30 Toyota Sales for 2007 May
> Surpass GM
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#31 Toyota Sales for 2007 May
> Surpass GM
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#73 Price of CPU seconds
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes
> parallel path
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes
> parallel path
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#55 performance of hardware
> dynamic scheduling
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#50 Microsoft versus Digital
> Equipment Corporation
>
> there were some number of efforts in the 90s (billions of dollars) that
> looked at business process re-engineering to leverage killer micros and
> distributed object-oriented technology to implement "straight-through
> processing" (eliminating the "overnight batch window"). It turns out
> that many of these had grandious failures when nobody bothered to do any
> speeds&feeds until very late in the effort ... frequently belatedly
> discovering that the distributed object-oriented technology had a factor
> of 100 times increase in overhead (compared to the typical Cobol batch
> implementation), totally obliterating any hopes of throughput
> improvements.
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