In many parts of the world, auditor behavior is spelled out in ISO 9000. And, as I recall, that behavior is much like Ted's posts. Not so in the US, it would seem. I wonder if that would account for the differing experiences? To be fair, not all of the silliness is coming from the auditors. But they are embracing it and ramming it down any handy throat.
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Auditors (was: Survey says...) >I guess our mangement forgot to read the definitions. And come to think of it, that has been true in every shop I've seen. Yes. But, who carries the hammer? >Audits, especially external audits, carry a lot of weight. The enforcement does not come from the auditors, but the audits do not seem to be questioned. Then your company is missing something in due diligence. Any finding can (and, sometimes must) be questioned. If not, due diligence arises again (or wimpiness). >And the audit groups seem to have their own SME which in some cases really stretch the definition of "expert". Again, due diligence. Accept bad findings, curl up your toes, go belly-up and 6 feet under, or fight back and defend your position and job. If you're going to lose it fighting, you're probably going to lose it accepting. If they're accurate, suck it up and accept. An audit finding is not necessarily gospel! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html