On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:27:51 +0100, Ferran Perxas <lordbis...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Thanks for all your answers. I'll explain the whole problem so we can focus
>the questions/answers.
>Here, in the site i'm working, the developement team works with Natural. The
>way they use to invoke these programs is via a call to an assembler
>(Software AG) with the PGM Natural to execute, written on the SYSIN
>statement.
>
>In some cases, the developers dynamically build JCL and they submit those
>via intrdr from CICS (super "fat-batch-running" transactions), my client
>wants to keep this up and working, but i want to know which programs are run
>in my productive environement. Or in this case "were" run.
>
>Because of your answers i can understand that is way impossible for me to
>obtain the information submited long ago. But, does anyone have an example
>of a userexit that can help me catch this information and direct it to some
>kind of log (i.e. not used SMF-record)?
>
>Thanks all,
>
>Ferran.
>
>
>On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:29 PM, David Logan <loga3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Yep. If you wanted to log it, you would have to log it manually through an
>> exit, like in CI or something. Seems a bit weird to me, but you could do
>> it.
>>
>> David Logan
>> Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Business Insight
>> http://centrus.com
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ed Finnell
>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 07:09
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: Extracting in-stream dataset (i.e. SYSIN) from SMF
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/9/2009 6:58:14 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>> lordbis...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> belive that the info may be logged in other places than SMF, but i  don't
>> know where to start searching.
>>
>>
>> >>
>> If it is SYSIN DD * it is only kept on SPOOL.  If you have shop standards
>> that require SYSIN DD DSN=cntl_file you could have  a possibility with
>> jobnames
>> and  OPEN/CLOSE or RACF(or equivalent) facilities.
>>
>>
>>
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<snip>
....catch this information
<snip>

How would you know what job(s) to "catch" - maybe by the "called" program? 
I would be more concerned that you have instream data programs being
executed in production mode, uncontrolled, possibly submitted by developers,
if I am understanding the circumstances.  When a job is purged from the
spool (SMF type 26 execution purge node), the job's SYSIN data is also
purged.  No chance for auditing or post-execution code review.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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