(Forwarding an off-list response back to the List) Patrick makes a very good point about the impact on software licensing when moving from multiple CECs to a single large one. In our old configuration, we had two pairs of medium-sized CECs. Because of the work distribution, most software had to be licensed on every CEC.
In our new configuration, most software is licensed only on the hefty z10. Next to that machine is a small one that *in no way* functions as a backup or failover for its big bro. My SHARE pitch does not use the term 'penalty box', but that's how we referred to the small CEC during our planning. Besides supplying a second set of ICF LPARs, the penalty box runs several key 'enterprise utility' products that need to run somewhere but not necessarily on the same CEC as data hosts: job scheduler, VTAM session manager, sysout manager, etc. These products tend to be expensive and MIPS-priced. They live very nicely on a small CEC, which can easily be sysplexed with LPARs on the big box. After all was said and done, we saved money with the new configuration without extracting any big concessions from software vendors. My point is that it's time to revisit long-held views about how to configure and manage your mainframe environment. Before the z10, we never seriously considered doing this. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com ----- Forwarded by J O Skip Robinson/SCE/EIX on 03/23/2009 02:39 PM ----- "Mullen, Patrick" <patrick.mul...@g wl.ca> To jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 03/23/2009 08:43 cc AM Subject RE: How Many Mainframes Do You Need? Agreed, but sadly there are still some software vendors that charge for the entire machine even when their product only runs on an lpar consuming 2% of that machine. <snip> -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How Many Mainframes Do You Need? The thrust of my z10 User Experience segment in Austin is that it's time to rethink the 'classic' mainframe configuration. Insistence on multiple CECs to provide 'adjacent' failover in case of planned or unplanned outages leads to chronic problems of load balancing. A single machine that (1) you can trust and (2) can be extensively reconfigured without a POR, immediately solves the balancing problems while still promising stellar availability. The z10 is such a machine. http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Austin/S2839 SR192048.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html