> What frustrates me most is the absence of a command that will terminate a > pid chain (like described above) *without* having to issue a force to each > and every process.
While pids converted to hex look a lot more readable, as far as I could see, they're shown in decimal, too, when the ps command is issued under USS. And I did not type them, I used cut and paste :-( I was told by our resident C expert that the normal behaviour *should* have been termination of the whole chain once the 'top pid' is terminated. He also said that he read about the bahviour I witnessed, but he couldn't remember when it happens. Anyway, someone else here got to have fun with this. Our resident netview expert wrote me a clist that gets called with the jobname or userid and then does the analysis and forcing in rapid succession. And our C expert wrote the testing program for it. Thanks, guys! >I don't know about *your* automation product, but ours doesn't like "F >OMVS,SHUTDOWN" very much. We use SA/390, and we haven't implement f omvs,shutdown. But when our netview expert wrote the clist to 'killomvs' we found out very fast that both the automation netview and the automation manager have a thread in OMVS. Those we exempted from being killed before JES2 shutdown. If they get killed, too, that was a surefire way to manually shut down automation via cancel and force. For SA/390, the automation manager gets the shutdown command very early in the shutdown, but converts this to a 'delayed' shutdown'. It just waits until everything but the automation netview is down, gives the last shutdown command to automation netview and terminates itself. OMVS most probably doesn't wait for everyone to terminate their connections voluntarily, so while that gets these USS things shut down, it may also play havoc with the more well-behaved applications. Oh, and in my case F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKS resulted in: *BPXI033E FORK SERVICE SHUTDOWN HAS FAILED. ISSUE F BPXOINIT,RESTART=FORKS TO RESTART FORK SERVICE; OR RE-IPL. The 'OR RE-IPL' is a nice touch :-( Regards, Barbara ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
