Here's the crux of the problem. Up to now, the term 'sysplex' has been used
as if there were only one flavor. Not so. A sysplex with no CF is a 'basic'
sysplex that uses only CTC for intersystem communication.

- Without a CF, XCF on one system does not know for certain when another
system has truly left the sysplex.
- Without a CF, you will always get a WTOR to verify that an apparently
down system really is down.

We have one basic sysplex here. It behaves differently from our 'parallel'
sysplexes, that is, those sysplexes with CFs. Until someone replies 'down',
the whole sysplex can hang.

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JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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 I should add that this site does _not_ have a CF. XCF is setup and
that's about it.
The problem is with the distributed systems that use TCP/IP to talk to
the mainframe. Apparently the TCP stack freezes while this message is
outstanding waiting for the ,down reply and timeouts occur on remote
servers.


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville
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502-495-5000 x7011

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Barbara Nitz
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

Ups, forgot the SFM policy. (We have it active.) BUT: I have also seen
IXC102A *even though* sfm was active. *That* was a bug.

The book says:
3.  There are instances when this message will be issued and the
appropriate action must be taken even though there is an SFM policy
active in the sysplex.  If SFM cannot successfully isolate the system
image being removed, manual intervention will be required. This message
will be issued and must be responded to.

So I guess the question is if there is an SFM policy active. If so,
there should not be any message, and it needs to get investigated why
isolation via the CF (this is what SFM actually does) does not work.
This may take an IBM ETR to figure out. (In my case it was a mismatch in
code, and I think I got it solved by contacting someone in IBM
development directly.)

If there is no SFM policy, then one should be defined. Ours just
contains this:
DEFINE POLICY NAME(SFM01) REPLACE(YES) CONNFAIL(NO)
   SYSTEM NAME(*) WEIGHT(100) PROMPT

Best regards, Barbara

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