Considering how data is growing, don't these limitations seem a bit
arbitrary?  2**32 or 2**40?

Rob Schramm
On Oct 9, 2012 10:01 AM, "Blaicher, Christopher Y." <cblaic...@syncsort.com>
wrote:

> DB2 Sort and SyncSort do not have that limitation.  Their limitation is
> 2**40 rather than 2**32.
>
> Chris Blaicher
> Senior Software Engineer, Software Services
> Syncsort Incorporated
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Mehrshad Manshadi
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:39 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option
> Problem.
>
> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for your useful information.
>
> So The APAR PM43006 will solve our problem? Am I right?
>
> Best regards
> Manshadi
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: David Betten <bet...@us.ibm.com>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option
> Problem.
>
> Unfortunately, you are exceeding a DFSORT limitation on the number of
> records that can be sorted.  DFSORT has the following limitations
>
> 1. Variable-length records - 4294967295 records 2. EQUALS in effect -
> 4294967295 records 3. VLSHRT in effect - 2147483647 records 4. Blockset
> technique not selected - 2147483647 records
>
>
> Number 4 will not be a problem since Blockset is always used for sorts
> invoked by DB2 Utilities.  DB2 APAR PM43006 causes the utilities to pass
> NOVLSHRT and NOEQUALS which would resolve numbers 2 and 3 but since this is
> a vaiable length sort, you're still going to have that first limitation of
> 4,294,967,295 records.  Normally you'd want to break up the reorg by
> partitions but since you're doing a rebalance, I guess that's why it's
> trying to sort the entire file at once.  I suggest you open  PMR and see if
> DB2 Utilities support can provide a solution.
>
> Also two additional notes about this.
>
> 1. It looks like your DFSORTinstallation default for DSA is 64 and that's
> causing the utility to limit the mainsize it passes.  You probably want
> something much larger for a sort this size.  I'd suggest changing your
> installation default to something much larger like DSA=256.
> 2. It appears you are running DFSORT V1R5.  That has been out of service
> for quite some time.
>
>
>
> Have a nice day,
> Dave Betten
> DFSMS Performance Engineer
> IBM Corporation
> email:  bet...@us.ibm.com
> 1-301-240-3809
> DFSORT/MVSontheweb at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
>
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> wrote on
> 10/08/2012 10:10:10 AM:
>
> > From: Mehrshad Manshadi <m_mansh...@yahoo.com>
> > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
> > Date: 10/08/2012 10:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option
> Problem.
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu>
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> >
> >
> > The attached is sort message of the output job.
> >
> >
> > 1ICE143I 0 BLOCKSET     SORT  TECHNIQUE SELECTED
> >
> >  ICE250I 0 VISIT http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort FOR DFSORT PAPERS,
> > EXAMPLES A
> >  ICE000I 0 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5694-A01, Z/OS DFSORT V1R5 - 11:
> > 18 ON MON OC
> > 0              OPTION MOSIZE=0
> >  ICE140I 0 END OF PARAMETERS FROM DFSPARM  - SYSIN OR SORTCNTL/
> > PARAMETER LIST CO
> >            SORT FIELDS=(00005.0,00028.
> > 0,A),FORMAT=BI,FILSZ=E000004979426640,DYNA
> >                           OC=(SYSDA,04)
> >            RECORD TYPE=V,LENGTH=(00070,00070,00070)
> >            OPTION
> MSGPRT=ALL,MSGDDN=UTPRINT,AVGRLEN=00070,MAINSIZE=065536K
> >  ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5
> >  ICE751I 0 C5-BASE   C6-BASE   C7-BASE   C8-Q83041 E4-BASE   C9-BASE
> >   E5-Q90312
> >  ICE193I 0 ICEAM2 ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM2 INSTALLATION MODULE
> SELECTED
> >  ICE089I 0 ROINHORB.REORG   .DSNUPROC, INPUT LRECL = 70, TYPE = V
> >  ICE092I 0 MAIN STORAGE = (67108864,67108864,67108864)
> >  ICE156I 0 MAIN STORAGE ABOVE 16MB = (66060288,66060288)
> >  ICE127I 0 OPTIONS: OVFLO=RC0 ,PAD=RC0 ,TRUNC=RC0
> > ,SPANINC=RC16,VLSCMP=N,SZERO=Y
> >  ICE128I 0 OPTIONS:
> > SIZE=67108864,MAXLIM=1048576,MINLIM=450560,EQUALS=Y,LIST=Y,E
> >  ICE129I 0 OPTIONS: VIO=N,RESDNT=ALL ,SMF=NO
> ,WRKSEC=Y,OUTSEC=Y,VERIFY=N,CHA
> >  ICE130I 0 OPTIONS: RESALL=0,RESINV=0,SVC=109
> > ,CHECK=Y,WRKREL=Y,OUTREL=Y,CKPT=N,
> >  ICE131I 0 OPTIONS:
> > TMAXLIM=6291456,ARESALL=0,ARESINV=0,OVERRGN=16384,CINV=Y,CFW
> >  ICE132I 0 OPTIONS:
> > VLSHRT=N,ZDPRINT=Y,IEXIT=N,TEXIT=N,LISTX=N,EFS=NONE    ,EXIT
> >  ICE133I 0 OPTIONS: HIPRMAX=OPTIMAL,DSPSIZE=MAX
> > ,ODMAXBF=0,SOLRF=Y,VLLONG=N,VSAM
> >  ICE235I 0 OPTIONS: NULLOUT=RC0
> >  ICE750I 0 DC 0 TC 0 CS DSVXX KSZ 32 VSZ 32
> >  ICE752I 0 FSZ=4979426640 RE  IGN=0 C  AVG=70 70  WSP=452719355 E
> > DYN=0
> 0
> >  ICE121A 7 FILE SIZE IS TOO LARGE
> >  ICE751I 1 D8-Q83041 D4-Q84357 E8-BASE
> >  ICE052I 0 END OF DFSORT
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> > Manshadi
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: David Betten <bet...@us.ibm.com>
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option
> Problem.
> >
> > You need to look at the sort messages to determine why the sort failed.
> If
> > you want, send the entire joblog to the DFSORT hot line
> (dfs...@us.ibm.com)
> > and we can look it over for you.
> >
> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Dave Betten
> > DFSMS Performance Engineer
> > IBM Corporation
> > email:  bet...@us.ibm.com
> > 1-301-240-3809
> > DFSORT/MVSontheweb at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
> >
> > IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> wrote on
> > 10/08/2012 08:03:35 AM:
> >
> > > From: Mehrshad Manshadi <m_mansh...@yahoo.com>
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
> > > Date: 10/08/2012 08:06 AM
> > > Subject: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option
> > Problem.
> > > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We have a table space with 250 partition and 4,600,000,000 records
> > > which it's have to re partition.
> > >
> > > Because of lack space on the DASD we are trying to use Tape on some
> > > DD cards as follows :
> > >
> > > //SYSREC    DD DSN=TEMPDS.TAPE1,DISP=(MOD,CATLG),
> > > //          UNIT=CART,RETPD=36,BLKSIZE=0,LABEL=(,SL)
> > > //SYSUT1    DD DSN=TEMPDS.TAPE2,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
> > > //          UNIT=CART,RETPD=36,BLKSIZE=0,LABEL=(,SL)
> > > //SORTOUT   DD
> >  DSN=TEMPDS.TAPE3,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
> > > //          UNIT=CART,RETPD=36,BLKSIZE=0,LABEL=(,SL)
> > > //SYSCOPY   DD DSN=TEMPDS.TAPE4,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
> > > //          UNIT=CART,RETPD=36,BLKSIZE=0,LABEL=(,SL)
> > >
> > > We are using 123 work data sets as follows :
> > >
> > > //SORTWK01  DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),UNIT=SYSDA, //
> > > SPACE=(CYL,(4300,1000),RLSE), //
> > > VOL=(,,,180),STORCLAS=SCLARGE
> > > //SORTWK02  DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),UNIT=SYSDA, //
> > > SPACE=(CYL,(4300,1000),RLSE), //
> > > VOL=(,,,180),STORCLAS=SCLARGE
> > > //SORTWK03  DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),UNIT=SYSDA, //
> > > SPACE=(CYL,(4300,1000),RLSE), //
> >   VOL=(,,,180),STORCLAS=SCLARGE
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > //SORTWK4F  DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),UNIT=SYSDA, //
> > > SPACE=(CYL,(4300,1000),RLSE), //
> > > VOL=(,,,180),STORCLAS=SCLARGE
> > >
> > > And the reorg options as follows :
> > >
> > > //DFSPARM  DD  *
> > >     OPTION MOSIZE=0
> > > //DSNUPROC.SYSIN DD *
> > > REORG TABLESPACE QQBANCS.TSINHO REBALANCE
> > >     LOG NO SORTDATA SORTDEVT SYSDA SORTNUM 4
> > >     COPYDDN(SYSCOPY)
> > > /*
> > >
> > > The problem is the unload phase cont the number of records which we
> > > expected and after this we assume that it should be  switch to next
> > > step , but the job failed with following error:
> > >
> > > DSNUGUTC - OUTPUT START FOR UTILITY, UTILID = ROINHORB DSNUGTIS -
> >  PROCESSING SYSIN AS EBCDIC
> > > DSNUGUTC -  REORG TABLESPACE QQBANCS.TSINHO REBALANCE LOG NO
> > > SORTDATA
> > >
> > > DSNUGSRT - ERROR FROM SORT COMPONENT RC=16, UTILITY STOPPED DSNUGBAC
> > > - UTILITY BATCH MEMORY EXECUTION ABENDED, REASON=X'00E40005'
> > >
> > > Please help if you have any idea about it.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Manshadi
> > >
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