How would this proposed data base, new list server, or whatever it may become, 
differ from the CBT tape?

Bill Fairchild
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of scott
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost

A thought - was to have Carmine join us, which would be nice, but we would 
expand on his good work.  It too would avoid legal complications as well.

On 10/29/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:


> Yes, emails are (implied) copyrighted when you make them available for 
> other computers to see (post on a web page or send an email, drafts or 
> password protected files excluded), even without an explicit copyright 
> notice.
>
> Reworking someone else's copyrighted work it becomes a jointly 
> authored work if you include them as the author and should had their 
> authorization (something like a wiki you acknowledge subsequent 
> authors have the right to modify the document).  You should include a 
> reference to the original.
>
> Reworking someone else's work making it look like they were the sole 
> author is one form of a crime (similar to libel).
>
> Copying (and or reworking) someone else's work looking like it is your 
> sole work is another form of a crime (similar to theft).
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM, McKown, John 
> <john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:
>> I don't think another email forum for the z is needed. We have IBM-MAIN, 
>> IBMTCP-L, MVS-OE, CICS-L, ASSEMBLER-LIST, Linux-390 and likely even more. 
>> IANAL, but I wonder what the copyright status is of the messages which are 
>> sent on a public email forum. I just don't see how anybody could assert a 
>> copyright claim on them (thinking about Lindy's response about one person 
>> who considers his knowledge to be his "property"). So maintaining an 
>> independent archive is likely legal (if not, Google is in trouble). I also 
>> wonder how much "editing" that one could get away with. What I was thinking 
>> of was perhaps a "raw archive" (perhaps indexed or threaded) and, from that, 
>> make an FAQ "wiki" like site which took the information, organized it, but 
>> include hyperlinks back to the "raw archive" message(s) from which the 
>> information was "cribbed". Might even have links to vendor documentation, if 
>> such is available. IBM very nicely has a good Web documentation site that I 
>> often reference in a reply so that other's can evaluate things for 
>> themselves. All that I've been able to find for CA are PDF documents, and 
>> you need to log into their support site to get access to them. So I doubt it 
>> would be legal to "webify" them so that you could give a hyperlink to a web 
>> page containing their information. Other vendors seem to be like CA. They 
>> don't seem to want their documentation to be easily accessed via the Web in 
>> an "unfettered" manner. Oh, wait, Dovetail Technologies "man" pages for 
>> their zero-cost software is easily gotten to via "unfettered access" and 
>> hyperlinks.
>>
>> --
>> John McKown

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