Hi Joe,

The point here is that even though this has been documented for decades, nobody 
is actually doing this.  Nobody seems to know what this DD would be used for, 
it isn't being allocated, and beyond what you show from the manual, there's 
nothing to show what the DD card would look like for attributes or anything.  
It appears to be a long-standing "oops" in the manual.

Rex

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Monk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 8:33 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: What is GRXBIMG

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ikja300/tsorun.htm

"You can invoke a REXX exec in the TSO/E address space in several ways. To 
invoke an exec in TSO/E foreground, use the TSO/E EXEC command processor to 
either implicitly or explicitly invoke the exec and you must have ddname 
GRXBIMG allocated."

Joe

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:54 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> What does that mean and why do you say so? It's not a DD that you need 
> to use REXX in TSO, because IKJEFT01 works fine without it. It's not 
> SYSPROC or SYSECEC, which would make sense. And it has a prefix not 
> associated with REXX or any other z/OS component.
>
> If it were indeed a DD statement that the authors believed to be 
> necessary to run REXX in TSO, wouldn't they have explained what to 
> code on it or at least used it in sample JCL?
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> ________________________________________
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> behalf of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 8:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What is GRXBIMG
>
> Its some REXX DD that has to be allocated before you can run in TSO.
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:25 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Idle speculation: it's the file name of s bit map meant to go into 
> > the manual and the text was supposed to say SYSPROC.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on 
> > behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:36 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: What is GRXBIMG
> >
> > A more interesting question might be "what happens if I do allocate it?"
> > and at least for a simple test with ALLOC FI(GRXBIMG) DA(*) the 
> > answer seems to be "nothing special."
> >
> > What might this be a relic of? GRX does not seem to be a component
> prefix.
> > I could be wrong.
> >
> > Here's my theory: a developer whose initials were GR added some sort 
> > of debug output: GRXBIMG = George Rothwell's Extended Byte Image or
> something
> > like that. It somehow made it into the product documentation. 
> > Astounding that it has hidden there in plain sight for over twenty years.
> >
> > I do not see the reference in the 1991 MVS/REXX Reference:
> >
> >
> http://secure-web.cisco.com/1msRUVNTCVPM6al9HyShyRDCsU6ONoAtBXbZbF7GJI
> 59Gj89EEVWxcw_sygtcmoro-Imjk1U0ivgPs56TezTZL7Ba2WK1xNb6Yt-8QhSSHtfKcjp
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> dXSSqNjPMCsTlIWQCC56yaSIKzebhds42QUBcHC9zlx-UMb5yTFa2oIWvz0WrXbUGm2BF2
> bLLjlEhdCanddWLM-oXiVALYstYbU2hWeGN7BMRxMcJFPaMNmBxidchg_eoJCTNNqeCY_q
> 74Di2uFtY4YQx2Y89PNJ8tAou1-jxWUZ1teZbByjfqzH8hUIH2VQUbpBvenpMTw1T4Cnee
> tfQe7qvCqp5o2OSE52nYpPrr4XGXLb1VNGnwTSrzLKz3fW4A6bNBpdw-r/http%3A%2F%2
> Fwww.bitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2F370%2FTSO_Extensions%2FSC28-1883-4_TS
> O_Extensions_Version_2_Procedures_Langage_MVS_REXX_Reference_Aug1991.p
> df
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 9:16 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: What is GRXBIMG
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:00:19 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
> >
> > >I must have time on my hands. I just dragged out the OS/390 V2R8 
> > >CDs
> from
> > 1999, and the sentence is there verbatim.
> > >
> > >It's the only hit on GRXBIMG on CD #1.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Steve Smith
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:37 AM
> > >
> > >It's still there in V2R4... and I am appalled that I've been 
> > >running
> REXX
> > >incorrectly for decades now.
> > >
> > I submitted a (slightly snarky) RCF on this:
> >
> > Hello, MHVRCFs,
> >
> > In:
> >
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v
> 2r2.ikja300/tsorun.htm
> > • /OS 2.2.0
> > • z/OS TSO/E
> > • z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference
> > • Using REXX in different address spaces
> >
> > I read: "... you must have ddname GRXBIMG allocated."
> >
> > I'm curious.  Does:
> >    //GRXBIMG DD DUMMY
> > suffice, or must it be a PDS(E)?
> >
> > What error is reported if the programmer fails to allocate GRXBIMG?
> >
> > Is this covered in M&C?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > gil
> >
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