I worked for a health care company. Pharmacies in hospitals run 24 by 7. Walgreens runs 24 by 7 in many markets. So does CVS & Rite Aid. If they can’t access your health records in real time at nearly 100% of the time, you might die. And, if your info is hacked or compromised, each instance can be fined at 10k each. (in Ohio) Hear of HIPAA? Also, health care providers need access to your records in real time to prevent drug interaction issues.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:18 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: Who said it has anything to do with the mainframe? The point was that IBM's cloud is not great. Mainframes don't, wont and never will have a role in public clouds. They are for running legacy applications. Maybe hybrid clouds may adopt some z? I certainly hope so. Anything that modernizes the platform to give it more life is a good thing for all of us. And I would love to know what pharmacy has 99.999+ uptime? Do they typically run a UPS and generators in case of a power cut? What about network redundancy and other fail-overs in the store? On 2020-10-11 9:41 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: > Looks to me like those census problems weren’t mainframe related at all. I > didn’t say enterprises don’t use AZURE or AWS. They do. They just don’t use > them for mission critical, highly sensitive information. If you walk into a > pharmacy for life saving meds, you want 99.999+ up time. You also don’t want > your health records hacked. In fact, most HC companies can get fined 10k per > record compromised. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:28 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > You're conflating enterprise with traditional mainframe customers such > as the finance industry. Apple, BP, Shell, Coca-Cola etc all use AWS, > are they not enterprise customers? As for health care, the UK NHS is a > huge AWS customer. > > The reputation of IBM's cloud (or maybe just IBM) in Australia hasn't > recovered from the 2016 census fiasco [1]. The Australian government no > longer trusts IBM and has moved to AWS [2]. > > You're obviously an IBM fanboy. A lot of what you say is absolute nonsense. > > [1] > https://www.zdnet.com/article/censusfail-an-omnishambles-of-fabulous-proportions/ > [2] > https://www.zdnet.com/article/australian-2021-digital-census-to-be-built-on-aws/ > > > On 2020-10-11 1:39 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: >> You’re comparing 2 entirely different clouds. IBM isn’t in the consumer >> cloud market. There is more money in PC’s than there is in mainframes too! >> And IBM processes 90% of credit card transactions. You were wrong. No >> fortune 100 companies are going to use AZURE or AWS for highly critical, >> highly sensitive information. Consumer clouds are everywhere. It’s becoming >> commoditized. Enterprise cloud will never be commoditized and will remain >> highly profitable. Banks, big retailers, and health care can’t afford the >> hacks and crashes of consumer cloud services. >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> >> On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 1:28 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Bill, you can quote self-serving SHARE fodder all you like, but the fact >> remains: IBM cloud is a joke in the industry. Doesn't mean it couldn't >> become a player, but that's aspirational at best. That SHARE transaction >> quote is nonsense--do the math: 1.3M/sec=112,320,000,000 per day. 112 >> BILLION. That's 16 transactions per day per person on the planet. Be >> serious. That number comes from IBM, was extrapolated by taking their >> largest five customers and multiplying by the number of z/OS systems out >> there. Lies, damned lies, and statistics and all that, eh? >> >> And plenty of real, serious, multi-billion-dollar companies use AWS, Azure, >> and even GCP. >> >> You work for a vendor; you have access to lots of industry knowledge from >> the real world, not SHARE or IBM marketing. Talk to your peers. Learn. The >> truth is out there. >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:57 PM Bill Johnson < >> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >>> I’ve studied them extensively. I’m an investor. So I really don’t need the >>> lecture but I understand that’s what the frequent posters here need to do. >>> Large enterprises aren’t building on AZURE & AWS. Lots of smaller companies >>> are. Because of the costs. AZURE & AWS are on the way to commoditization. >>> Because it’s easy to replicate. In fact, AZURE growth is beginning to slow. >>> Even with the government contract. >>> >>> https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/31/probeat-slowing-aws-microsoft-azure-and-google-cloud-revenue-growth-is-a-good-thing/amp/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 < >>> 0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies >>> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf >>> Of Bill Johnson >>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies >>> >>> 2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. >>> IBM is enterprise. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read the report. It's at >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kinsta.com/blog/cloud-market-share/__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!bkn5Ica_-GSgVSVMQhoO-ZwjnqBMD632lXyTKAVvTtc_OWH8fyBG3CcIrbtSWqbpWZCJsA$ >>> and lists the top 5 vendors, comprising more than half the market, and then >>> notes that the next ten players--of whom IBM is one--"account for another >>> 26% of the SaaS market". >>> So IBM has a couple of percent; as I said, that's a joke. Not a major >>> player. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 10:04 PM Bill Johnson < >>> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone who says IBM cloud is a joke isn’t well informed. >>>> Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020 >>>> >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | | | >>>> >>>> | >>>> >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | | >>>> Cloud Market Share – a Look at the Cloud Ecosystem in 2020 >>>> >>>> Deep dive into the Cloud Market Share with tons of data and stats >>>> compared to explain the different cloud services and identify the >>>> leading cloud providers. >>>> | | >>>> >>>> | >>>> >>>> | >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 3:41 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> "IBM cloud" is a joke. When anyone talks about cloud, it's AWS, Azure, >>>> maybe GCP. NEVER EVER ONCE IBM. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:24 PM Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Classification: HCL Internal >>>>> >>>>> Don't know anything about this directly, but It actually might help >>>>> the "traditional" portfolio by allowing more focus. >>>>> The cloud portion can benefit from reduced bureaucracy, so on the >>>> surface, >>>>> this is a win-win. >>>>> >>>>> OTOH, how many cloud providers have been hacked to date. I recall >>>>> APPLE, AMAZON and I think one more. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >>>>> Behalf Of Dave Jousma >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:44 AM >>>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>>>> Subject: IBM splitting into two companies >>>>> >>>>> [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. 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