I don't understand. If you have an SFE in the middle of line n and the next SF/SFE is at the end of line n+1, what insert issue exists? Or do you have another field at the end of line n, e.g.,
)ATTR DEFAULT(%+]) ^ TYPE(INPUT) CAPS(OFF) INTENS(HIGH) MAXLEN(120) ! TYPE(OUTPUT) INTENS(HIGH) )BODY EXPAND(\\) %BROWSE ───%&ZH \─\%LINE!ZLINE %COL!ZCL !ZCR % %COMMAND ═══>^ZCMD \ \ %SCROLL ═══>]ZSCR% If you move the command field to the end of the line then you can make it several lines long with no problem. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rob Scott [rsc...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command >> How about a panel that has a single field across two lines? That's bog >> standard. The insert mode issue still persists. We have tried using ZEXPAND but that does not solve the problem either. As for 43x80 being archaic, we still have LOTS of customers still using 24x80 ! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: 30 November 2020 16:39 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command EXTERNAL EMAIL > The lack of "insert mode" across both lines is frustrating, but I am not sure > there is a solution to that > apart from a wide screen panel that has a single input field. How about a panel that has a single field across two lines? That's bog standard. > This would only provide relief for people running wide screen 3270 modes and > most of our users are 43x80. I never considered 132 to be wide since the advent of the 3290. You have to accommodate them if your users are still in the 19th century, but 43x80 sounds so archaic. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3<http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3> ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rob Scott [rsc...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command A few notes about this issue. (1) The reason that "skip" does not work on the POPUP panel is down to the interplay between the ISPF attributes and the escape characters used to draw the window. (2) The original developer workaround for (1) was the ability to switch to a panel using PF5 to remove the POPUP window and that enables "skip" to work. (3) Automatically stripping trailing blanks from the first line would require SDSF to have knowledge of the syntax of the command or some sort of awareness of whether quotes or double-quotes are in effect and unbounded and if so, is this meaningful or not. This is not something that SDSF wants to get involved in as the text is freeform and what might appear to be apparent strange values may be expected by the receiving user or ISV software product that processes the command. The lack of "insert mode" across both lines is frustrating, but I am not sure there is a solution to that apart from a wide screen panel that has a single input field. This would only provide relief for people running wide screen 3270 modes and most of our users are 43x80. Rob Scott Rocket Software -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 29 November 2020 18:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: Extraneous blanks in SDSF issued command EXTERNAL EMAIL On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:14 +0000, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > ... >EOF does not work because the two line buffers appear not be connected. > If it doesn't work, it's cause for SR. inserting characters you didn't type, whether "bbbb" or "CRAP" is a data integrity violation. If it's WAD, it should go to RFE. (Sometimes the offender is a faithless 3270 emulator.) (I'm most comfortable on systems where blanks aren't treated so specially.) >Inserting blanks up front might work. Kind of a pain. 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