Amen to that.
And to complement - when plans do not materialize, they do not stop the madness, they increase spendings to make it ...more mad. And more. And even more. And they start to looking for those to blame. Like mainframe folks who take care about the system.
(can't say more)

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
(looking for new job)
Lodz, Poland


W dniu 01.02.2021 o 23:02, Ramsey Hallman pisze:
Dave, I regret to hear of another mainframe shutting down.  It's a shame
many companies do not realize exactly what they are doing until it is too
late.  I don't know about WSU, but the companies I've been involved with
who migrated off of IBM mainframes were surprised to find how much it cost
to "replace" the horsepower of a mainframe.

On a spreadsheet, mainframes look ugly in cost, both iron and software.  In
actuality, the power produced by that iron and software FAR outperforms any
other platform.  My most recent shop (that migrated) thought they could
replace a z10 with a quad-core Intel system, or so new management said.
100+ quad-core systems later and 100+ software licenses and they still
could not meet the published response times the company guaranteed to
users.  Of course, they were too far down the road to back out at that
point, but the migration to a "cheaper platform" ended up costing them
about $1.2M/yr more than the mainframe and software licenses.  I was quite
pleased to see the manager who thought this was such a great idea be fired
after completion of the project when the true costs, hardware, software,
and response began coming in.

JR


On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gibney, Dave <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:

    I wish this wasn't true,  but we continue to move towards shutting down
or z/OS systems. Last night I shutdown VPS and DRS from Levi, Ray and
Shoup. I wish to thank LRS for the one month license extension they granted
us at no charge. Our employees did get W2 forms :)
    I also shut down our session manager, Netpass from BIS. Bis also
granted us a one month, no charge extension.
    I was very please by the support we received from both companies over
the last more than 30 years.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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