I remember zmodem over telnet. As with IND$FILE, it was all the same session.
BTW, while with TCAM you could attach ASCII tty and other s/s terminals via WP mode, with VTAM you needed NTO or some other protocol converter. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 6:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: And the survey says... On Sun, 2 May 2021 12:03:00 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >How would such a separate IND$FILE client work? Would it somehow share the TSO >session with the emulator? Or would it somehow log onto TSO on its own, >despite its lack of "ability to format a display"? > I was imagining the latter, recalling days of yore when I could connect to TSO or CMS with a serial (VT52-like) terminal. I don't know what would have happened if I typed CALL IND$FILE. Remember XMODEM, YMODEM, KERMIT, ... Hayes Kermit spoofing ...? Maybe Kermit is the IND$FILE client. Rocket discusses both IND$FILE and Kermit (Last-Modified: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:00:42 GMT): <https://www3.rocketsoftware.com/bluezone/help/v42/en/bz/whgdata/whlstt67.htm#67> I recall each terminal type had a dedicated range of ports on the 3705(?); nothing like a TERMINFO data base. I once tried disabling software ASCII<->EBCDIC translation and was astonished that the bits came in backwards. -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN