And most of the crap on this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with IBM-Main!
Take your political pontificating somewhere else!!!
Rex
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Bill Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:25 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
I'm going to have to check my communist sources at the University.
When is trump being reinstated?
On Monday, August 23, 2021, 08:02:33 AM EDT, Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com>
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/five-guantanamo-detainees-to-be-exchanged-for-bergdahl/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/released-guantanamo-detainees-killed-americans-officials/story?id=39734164
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/who-are-5-guantanamo-detainees-swapped-exchange-bergdahl-n119376
Sorry dude, not murdoch owned...
Joe
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:47 AM Bill Johnson <
00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> I forgot only Murdoch owned sources are factual. Oh, and the Hindu Times.
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:41:29 AM EDT, Joe Monk <
>joemon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> First off ... politifact. Enough said. Not a credible source.
>
> Second, look up the Gitmo 5. The actual guys in charge, not superficial.
>
>
> https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/how-khairullah-khairkhwa-rel
> eased-from-guantanamo-bay-planned-taliban-s-return-101629182398683.htm
> l
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM Bill Johnson <
> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Ooops. PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role
> > in releasing key Taliban leader
> >
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > | | |
> >
> > |
> >
> > |
> > |
> > | |
> > PolitiFact - Posts correct about Trump administration’s role in
> > releasing key Taliban leader
> >
> > As the Taliban celebrated its rapid takeover of Afghanistan, blame
> > for
> the
> > fall of the U.S.-backed Afghan government and/
> > | |
> >
> > |
> >
> > |
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:07 PM, Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Actually it was Obama who released all the Taliban, in the trade for
> > the traitor Bergdahl.
> >
> > Get your facts straight.
> >
> >
> >
> https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo
> -in-2014-swap-by-obama/
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Bill Johnson <
> > 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Trump started the process of leaving Afghanistan. Even released
> > >5000 Taliban including their current leader. We aren't leaving
> > >Americans
> > behind.
> > > Biden will be president for another 3 1/2 years, unless he falls
> > > ill
> and
> > > Kamala takes over. And knowing that probably really gets you going
> > pleases
> > > me.
> > >
> > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 08:01:21 PM EDT, Savor, Thomas <
> > >00000330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your guy is in-defensible...great job in Afghanistan...superb !!!
> > > Not only did we leave a bunch of US citizens there, but left NATO
> troops
> > > there...so Ooooh another Dumbass !!!
> > > Biden makes Carter look good...I thought Obozo was bad...Biden is
> > probably
> > > going to be removed soon...or at least starting the process.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> Behalf
> > > Of Bill Johnson
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:45 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
> > >
> > > Ooooh, another trumper.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:42 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <
> wayn...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > *I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.*
> > >
> > > Trolls have that effect.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson <
> > > 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I knew I'd trigger the trumpers here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 7:27 PM, Savor, Thomas <
> > > > 00000330b7631be3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the
> > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in
> > > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006
> > > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004
> percent
> > > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning."
> > > >
> > > > That's by far the stupidest comment I've heard in long
> > > > time.....MIT...Mass..area nothing but Democrats (of course, the
> > > > election was clean). We already know that Arizona was fraud,
> > > > Georgia was fraud...Georgia is trying to figure out how to audit
> > > > Fulton
> County
> > > > where terrible voting irregularities occurred...but the fraud
> > > > machine is heavy...Next you are going to tell me that the
> > > > Georgia voting law is wrong...if you think so STOP WATCHING CNN.
> > > > But I know nothing
> will
> > > happen.
> > > >
> > > > We will not be secure with our elections until we go back to
> > > > paper ballots...i don't trust electronic voting at all...the
> > > > Rats didn't like under Bush, the GOP doesn't like it now.
> > > >
> > > > You say, " how can they cheat electronically"...guys think about it.
> > > > Your PC recognizes when you plug something into USB...right.
> > > > Volkswagen got into a lot of trouble when diesel car was plugged
> > > > into emissions test...system recognized it, and changed the
> > > > settings to pass emissions...then when unplugged, car computer
> > > > reset system back
> to
> > > normal.
> > > > So easily, a voting machine can recognize being audited, do
> > > > things correctly, then when unplugged, go back to "coded"
> > > > settings....voting machines by Law, once certified, are supposed
> > > > to be dis-connected
> from
> > > > the Internet, but we know that didn't happen in Arizona.
> > > >
> > > > There were 153 million registered voters in 2016, when 60%
> > > > voted...which is a pretty high amount.
> > > > In 2020, 168 million registered voters, 80+ for Biden 74+ for
> > > > Trump, for 92% voted...impossible.
> > > >
> > > > Biden tried to have a rally here in Georgia during the
> > > > election...couldnt get 100 people to show up...Trump had a rally
> > > > here in Georgia filled up Mercedes Benz stadium, with about
> > > > 50-60 thousand
> > > outside.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> > > > On Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:37 PM
> > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Programs that work right the first time.
> > > >
> > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the company. Do
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The number of lines of code is absolutely a good way to
> > > > determine complexity. To say otherwise is silly. Is it a 100%
> > > > correlation, of course not. Reminds me of people who say that
> > > > elections are
> fraudulent
> > > > and point to the handful of voter fraud incidents when the
> > > > reality
> is,
> > > > voter fraud is in effect zero.
> > > > In April 2020, a voter fraud study covering 20 years by the
> > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology found the level of mail-in
> > > > ballot fraud "exceedingly rare" since it occurs only in "0.00006
> > > > percent" of instances nationally, and, in one state, "0.000004
> percent
> > > > - about five times less likely than getting hit by lightning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 6:25 PM, Jeremy Nicoll <
> > > > jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 19:49, Bill Johnson wrote:
> > > > > You claim to know of a 1 line APL super complex program but
> > > > > when asked to prove it can't.
> > > >
> > > > What I actually said was:
> > > >
> > > > "A good case in point is that in APL a useful program can be
> > > >written in one line."
> > > >
> > > > I /did not/ say that I knew of a (specific) 1 line super complex
> > > > program, just indicating that useful one-liners exist in APL.
> > > >
> > > > I was merely suggesting that the number of lines in a program
> > > > was not a good way of estimating complexity.
> > > >
> > > > The two examples I pointed you at on the APL wikipedia page are
> > > > both (I
> > > > think) good examples of how a single line of code can (a) do a
> > > > lot, and (b) be hard to understand at a glance. Even if the
> > > > individual
> APL
> > > > operators (all those greek characters) were represented by
> > > > operator names, or even function names (though they are not
> > > > functions) I do
> not
> > > > think anyone could guess what those lines do.
> > > >
> > > > There's a short line of code (only 17 characters!) that
> > > > determines "all the prime numbers up to R". Search (for the
> > > > text in quotes) on the quite long webpage at
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomp
> > > > uterhistory.org
> %2Fblog%2Fthe-apl-programming-language-source-code%2F&a
> > > > mp;data=04%7C01%7Cthomas.savor%40fisglobal.com
> %7C49fb820627c844a0fe840
> > > >
> 8d965c6e4f7%7Ce3ff91d834c84b15a0b418910a6ac575%7C0%7C0%7C6376527271912
> > > >
> 49652%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
> > > >
> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4%2F8j4Zay2oUavcE%2BNp9a5I
> > > > A2t6NEYnc2ynFRepS9P6Y%3D&reserved=0
> > > >
> > > > to see it, with an explanation there of how that program works.
> > > >
> > > > It's a whole lot less easy to understand than the equivalent
> > > > written in, say COBOL.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
> > > >
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