Yeah, ad hominem and ludicrous stereotypes. "It seems like a waste of time to 
get mainframers to think that there is anything that will ever be as great as 
JCL." says everything necessary. I devoutly hope that he gets to work with 
people who fit that caricature.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


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I thought that looked familiar. Saw the article on reddit:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/15BE15YJecnbCxTJQ4a82JPAUe4hyI_mpJeIZK8lmq6JYr6CVp-ovEdroR6zxVz1gDQswnE--N-30x0PNWgsTfAieD_xtXSDHYoZQ4eJ73AZo0I8UxOSaj6POpiD---G1OR9aqEsrJKZ9NBaItC1XEg91iS74qk96WgvfZF0PUnz43n1kSrn5JCJnxJfKKBDmqURRZ_VA8gIJui23gcZLfgLNAIm2BK7J0f704IEFmlSmT5pISZ1dDy0PGWMPRYHTzjV6sakyd8RAqTbEyvtzSIO1k8CSGClsJK0_IsvZ5MCPaMjbgXI0GBCBd6js5ua3Mc0bZzYK-_FLyXkKpvFt8luHJHvWEe3EdAtCpDNINSxBXurIQZXyAGjTHd_D1J15bgalFg8nif9Is0svpylOJnO_VjLUXig_UGp4OqQO4UpQzbb5MKdfCGeYL6pnoqqOBd-DsjfxaTsbw8y1fbdJlA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fmainframe%2Fcomments%2Fp6aj9m%2Fconverting_jcl_to_python%2F

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:59 PM kekronbekron <
000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Objectively, this has got to be madness.
> Just look at the JCL that's being shoved into a horrid, horrid Python
> program.
> ~200 lines to replace 18 lines of JCL.
>
> Oh.. and that's leaving aside the condescending tone about 'the old
> mainframer'.
> Whether a person wants to learn something or not (therefore choosing their
> path) is up to them.
> They don't need to be harassed/shamed about it.
> Just because there were some people on mainframe forums consistently
> harassing everyone with "check with your site's system programmer / RTFM /
> etc.", it doesn't mean the woke folk need to return the favour by being
> passive aggressive or insulting senior sysprogs for not wearing neon shorts
> or whatever.
>
> If this is being paraded as simplification, now the mainframe is truly
> doomed.
>
>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ZyDlfAZ27E8D7TKzkOJJm1IXiWlVbgk4ruNhsc-ds0k8tL4Tdj3DNGk97xzuFNSh-KgmNm4j-_I8kMHplSlgMSD8jZmyFsV0Blbb8pBLoycjhivCwE_7qG4u7T9wvTvUtGXKoxhQsxmoAbDb4OTZ8hwXnu7kP5BV6PSuY6jxkMwwKvadibVNjcTtug0wmEURBfqAobgbv0cAK30PeqL7t2aKSIScWFFGxNPm6QZzHGn3O_9TxezEcTx_9MZP6uv2yR3MrRJb2KJaqZe7cmWliRo_TRne0cWAwZPMUw6A84ZBAxhaSTR6Gx8NRDzSdkVy9JO63jbf8EPdsu1jPokfk_n6a8nXZnFfWaTFNiGzKZHh1CBT4g6Nq8M5XPbpt6Ltvw7qczOpNeNPnsdm8Iy9ryb35M75w2KSRNKmLFXxv-weFIq5xQU-6WPoVtAcKiXZEB9cHTOyhxQzveFRg2jmuA/https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Ftheropod%2Fthe-journey-from-jcl-to-python-so-easy-even-an-old-mainframer-can-do-it-f088cc49366a
>
> - KB
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