Reasonable? People who weren’t aware of 5-9’s, who thought pharmacies weren’t 
open 24 hours a day. Silly you.


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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 11:07 PM, Tom Brennan 
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And here I thought you could have a reasonable conversation about an 
important topic.  Silly me.

On 10/21/2021 7:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I don’t really care Tom. Any more than I cared in 1995 when people like you 
> told me the mainframe was going to be gone in 5 years and I better look for 
> my next profession. I’m not looking for agreement like most of you.
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> On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:50 PM, Tom Brennan 
> <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> wrote:
> 
> Then you're lucky because my view is more like what David said.
> 
> On 10/21/2021 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> Plus, I’ve worked in 15 shops in my career, including banking, insurance, 
>> retail, and health care. In all of them, the mainframe is the most important 
>> and most used platform. And it’s not even close.
>>
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>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 9:13 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 21/10/2021 7:31 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
>>> I do almost everything important via app with a mainframe on the back end. 
>>> Banking, health records, retail shopping, insurance claims, investing. And 
>>> with very high confidence the transactions are secure, fast, & always 
>>> available. Not sure how more modern the mainframe could be actually.
>>> Bill J
>>
>> I would suggest that almost all of those companies (banks, retail,
>> insurance etc) that run mainframes run a significant portion of their IT
>> systems on distributed systems. I recently met a software architect from
>> a bank who told me that the explosion of internet banking app usage has
>> pushed up the TCO of their mainframe to unacceptable levels. 70% of
>> those transactions were reads (folks checking their bank balances on
>> their phones). Their solution was use Apache Kafka to replicate the data
>> to Apache Cassandra and only hit the mainframe for writes.
>>
>> Apache Kafka can be deployed on z/OS but it was crippled due to the
>> BPX1MMP (mmap) service being contained to 2GB. IBM have recently fixed
>> that which is another good example of mainframe modernization
>> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/PH32235.
>>
>>
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>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 7:18 PM, Rich Smrcina 
>>> <r...@velocitysoftware.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That can certainly be part of it.
>>>
>>> But it can also mean providing applications (typically web based) with 
>>> access to z/OS data, or interfaces. Whether that’s direct access to the 
>>> data, or access through a REST type interface. That way the mainframe can 
>>> retain it’s role as the system of record, and at the same time put a more 
>>> modern face on the applications.
>>>
>>> Rich Smrcina
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Mark Jacobs 
>>>> <00000224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it's related to the push for the z/OS Management Facility (z/OSMF) 
>>>> and Zowe over traditional system administration and programming methods.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Jacobs
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>>>> On Wednesday, October 20th, 2021 at 6:50 PM, David Elliot 
>>>> <star2019...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone out there know what is meant by the expression "Mainframe
>>>>>
>>>>> Modernization' '? It seems to be catching on with the Bobs but when you
>>>>>
>>>>> ask exactly how they propose to modernize their systems all you get is
>>>>>
>>>>> silence. As in if you don"know we shouldn't even be talking about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas ? Or is it just more BS like 'cloud' or 'devops'?
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