I suspect that prohibiting open source development is an unintended consequence. I also suspect that IBM will eventually amend the T&C to explicitly say yeah or nay.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 <0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware Seems to me that shouldn't be an issue. "Development" is what one is supposed to be learning, so writing and compiling programs and running tests is part of the "learning" process. I can only see an issue if a "learner" tried to market a product developed on their personal ZDNT with back-end support in the same instance. I can see IBM wanting an actual business to pay more, but if I am writing and testing programs to increase my knowledge and experience that is the basic function of the ZDNT, is it not? If I have an actual product idea to create and market, I am not just a "learner" any more once that product is tested enough to be ready to sell. Now I have become a business, and should probably act like a responsible and honest one. If I volunteer on an open source project to maintain and/or test (or maybe for Continuous Integration via Jenkins or some such) a 390x distribution of that project then I am using my ZDNT for open source "production" purposes. I can see that *might* be something IBM wants to prevent, but I don’t see how they could. I can't imagine any metrics that IBM could glean from a personal ZDNT instance on my personal machine that could differentiate between "development for a product or a business" as opposed to "development for learning and expanding skills". Then again, I may not know enough about the metrics IBM can access to be correct about that. I suspect that the part of the T&C's you are quoting is intended to thwart companies letting their in-house developers set up ZDNT's on their work machines and then use those instances for the company's day-to-day work, this saving $$$ by using fewer real-iron MSU's. It seems to me like that would be a reasonable limitation. I will, however, read the IBM T&C's carefully when I can find some round tuits for it. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 1:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM ZDNT Learner's Edition - beware The T's&C's explicitly state that it is to be used for learning and may NOT be used for any kind of development - including Open Source. I've confirmed that with two sources. Disappointing.... ☹ -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
