We were asked IBM to do downgrade the activation done by mistake and
activate TEST CBU. During this exercise do we need a downtime or it can be
done when the system load is at minimum ?

On Mon, 6 Dec, 2021, 7:16 pm Pommier, Rex, <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote:

> Right, but if you have a CBU you are probably doing your own DR and not
> relying on a DR company like Sungard.  It'll still probably get expensive,
> but at least you aren't reliant on the good will of some other company
> allowing you to keep using their hardware.
>
> Rex
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> Of Attila Fogarasi
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 3:13 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CBU HMC activation - switching back
>
> Chernobyl took out a couple of datacenters, so 35 years DR is the current
> record :) DR contract duration is a pricing decision, most can be extended
> indefinitely but get very expensive (and they have a "cause majeure" clause
> which allows DR site to dump you under some circumstances).  Typical
> contracts are for 30 and 90 days, some cultural variation by country.  It
> comes down to cost and a bigger factor is often the DR test terms.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 3:27 AM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Even if it takes more than 90 days after, e.g., an earthquake, a fire,
> > a flood, a hurricane, the data center will eventually be back on the air.
> >
> > BTW, how long does the typical DR contract allow you to stay, assuming
> > that you don't own it?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!KjMRP1I
> > xj6eLE0Fj!_xm2rlWIPLCeZJQ5EnCRBNOgk0YgfGrtviXlzNy1LNpNEU7aHrpc20ihFr7F
> > VMNXMg$
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
> > behalf of Roger Lowe [roger_l...@bigpond.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: CBU HMC activation - switching back
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 00:46:34 +0000, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Isn't a real DR usually temporary?
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > >https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!KjMRP1
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> > >7FVMNXMg$
> > >
> > CBU Test last only for 10 days whereas a CBU for an actual DR can last
> > for up to 90 days...
> >
> > Roger
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