Since 1990 (or so....)

 //COB    EXEC PGM=IGYCRCTL,REGION=4M,COND=(4,LT), 
 // PARM=('CICS("COBOL3,SP")',                     
 //   APOST,NOSSRANGE,LIB,MAP,OFFSET)              
 //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.IGY.SIGYCOMP      
 //         DD DISP=SHR,DSN=CICSTS51.CICS.SDFHLOAD 

Matthew

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:27:43 -0600, Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> wrote:

>Thanks Peter, in a former company that's what I was use to also.
>
>Carmen
>
>On 1/11/2022 10:24 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
>> Bummer.  I can't imagine having my SDLC admin not be at least a semi-skilled 
>> z/OS professional, or better yet a set of skilled professionals, but ours is 
>> a very large shop so that's what I'm used to having.
>>
>> You have my deepest sympathy.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List<IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>  On Behalf Of 
>> Carmen Vitullo
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:40 AM
>> To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: COBOL V6 question
>>
>> that helps Greatly thanks so much Peter, I was thinking a major project to 
>> rework the entire process.
>>
>> unfortunately our Endeavor admin has very little mainframe or Endeavor 
>> experience :(
>>
>> thanks again
>>
>> Carmen
>>
>> On 1/11/2022 9:34 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
>>> Carmen,
>>>
>>> Not *necessary* but still usable.  We are V6 also (6.2, not 6.3 yet), and 
>>> with 4.2 going off support this year management made a strong push to 
>>> prevent 4.2 modules (changes or additions) from going into production on a 
>>> going-forward basis.  OTOH, we still have many production programs that 
>>> haven't changed in a long time that were originally compiled with V3 
>>> running just fine.
>>>
>>> Our DB2 and CICS SDLC process (in-house, not ISV product) still uses the 
>>> pre-compilers for V6.2 translations without any problems.  If your Endeavor 
>>> process to translate DB2 and/or CICS programs use the pre-compilers, they 
>>> will continue to work as before.  If it ain't broke, there's no urgent need 
>>> to "fix" it.
>>>
>>> One slight drawback of the "built-in" DB2 and CICS translation is that your 
>>> COBOL listing shows only the original SQL or EXEC CICS statements, not the 
>>> underlying MOVE's and CALL's that implement them (you have to use the LIST 
>>> compiler option to see the pseudo-assembler equivalent).  Some programmers 
>>> may call that an improvement, some won't.
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of any significant or documented program runtime performance 
>>> benefit from using the "built-in" translators, though there may be 
>>> compile-job efficiency to be gained (one step instead of several).
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List<IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>   On
>>> Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:05 AMTo:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: COBOL V6 question
>>>
>>> Well I just inherited COBOL support and our programmers have been trying to 
>>> debug an issue with CICS COBOL, seems Ent COBOL V4 was still being used in 
>>> CICS TS 5.4. the tool used is Endeavor, long story short, V6 was being 
>>> tested in some processes but never updated in others.
>>> my question is mostly a sanity check, from what I've read the DB2 pre 
>>> compiler and the CICS translators are no longer needed, COBOL parms and 
>>> options are now used if these are DB2 or CICS programs ?
>>> this is valid ?
>>> thanks Carmen
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