On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 02:32:50PM +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> A VTAM application can print directly to an LU1 or LU3 printer. Other 
> applications would have to use an intermediate SYSOUT, in which case 
> you would need a Functional SubSystem (FSS) that supports your 
> printer. Does the 4224 support IPDS?

Yes, the 4224 is an IPDS printer.

-Alex

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> Subject: Re: How to set up a 3270 printer under OS/390?
> 
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 09:12:22PM +1100, Attila Fogarasi wrote:
> > The 42xx printers are dot matrix that were primarily meant to be used by
> > non-mainframe hosts so they come in a variety of configurations to emulate
> > asynchronous devices.
> 
> I am aware the 4224 came in a number of configurations. When I got it,
> it had a (broken) twinax interface in it, intended for an AS/400. I
> found a 3270 coax interface that I put in, which doesn't yield any error
> messages on the printer. As mentioned, the printer is recognized by the
> 3174 without issues, see [1], port address 03.
> As far as I know the 4224 came also in IEEE-1284 and ethernet variants.
> Not sure about EIA-232.
> 
> > You might have one that is not usable with OS/390 without special
> > hardware (there is an adapter card on the 3174 for it, for example.
> 
> Are you referring to the Asynchronous Emulation Adapter for the 3174? I
> am aware it exists, but I don't have one. It adds EIA-232 ports to the
> 3174.  Probably not applicable in my case anyways, as my 4224 has a 3270
> coax port.
> 
> > You'd have to determine exactly what model of 4224 you have, and
> > then configure the 3174 appropriately.
> 
> I don't think there is much to do on the 3174 really, at least I haven't
> found any configuration screens that seem relevant.
> 
> > I don't think it is a VTAM logmode issue (yet).  You've picked about
> > the most difficult printer type to use, might be a lot easier to get a
> > 3287 etc.
> 
> The 3287 is a neat device, difficult to find though. The 4224 is what I
> have.
> 
> > The 4224 claim to fame was that
> > it could handle a high volume of dot matrix multi-part form printing at
> > high speed.
> 
> True.
> 
> > Unlikely to be useful these days :)
> 
> This is an archaeological activity, not a production deployment :-)
> 
> At the moment I do not have enough knowledge about how printing works
> under MVS-type operating systems. Assuming a printer connects to VTAM
> successfully, then what? How do I 'send' something to a printer? This is
> probably described in an IBM document somewhere, but I haven't found
> anything helpful so far.
> 
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
> 
> -Alex
> 
> [1] 
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> 
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:32 AM Alexander Huemer <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Blast from the past, I know. Maybe somebody here remembers how this is
> > > done.
> > > I have a 4224, connected to a 3174 that is talking APPN to OS/390. The
> > > printer registers successfully on the 3174, I see a 'p' at the port that
> > > it is connected to in the 'Status Summary' screen of the 3174.
> > > Searching for documents that would explain how OS/390 / VTAM is to be
> > > configured, I didn't find much.
> > > [1] provides guidance in regard to a MODEENT macro that is supposed to
> > > work.
> > > But, where to go from there? I found [2], but RSCS seems to be a VM-only
> > > thing.
> > > I assume I'll have to configure the thing somehow in VTAM, though there
> > > must be more to it I think.
> > > If anybody can point me to relevant documents or has a 20 year old
> > > wrinkled-up cheat-sheet in their deskdrawer, I would appreciate a little
> > > help.
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/gddm?topic=gddm-4224-ipds-printer
> > > [2]
> > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zvm/7.2?topic=connections-sna-3270-printer-support
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