John,
Naah, it'll be the "z16-mm" short for mini-me.
Rex
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
John McKown
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Z15 EOM
Next is z2024-08, if it's GA in August 2024.
On Friday, March 3, 2023, Radoslaw Skorupka <
00000471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Well, nomenclature change is the only constant thing.
> We had z900 and z800
> Then we had z990 and z890
> Then we had z9-109 and we expected z8... but they announced z9BC and
renamed z9-109 to z9EC.
> Then we had z10EC and z10BC
> So we expected z11, but we got z196. And z114. They clarified it is 1
> for
first, 96 for # CPs...
> Then EC12. And BC12.
> So next generation was neither EC13 nor z9xxxEC but simply z13. With
> no
EC. Then z13s arrived.
> So next was z14 and we expected... but got z14 ZR1 - why ZR1? Why not
R4:'#$3 ???
> Nevermind z15 arrived. So we were guessing: z15s? z15BC? z15 ZR1? No!
> z15
T02. Obviously big machine was z15 T01. Well... no. It wasn't quite obvious.
> Now we have z16. Ooops! z16 A01.
> Let me guess the name of small z16: maybe z16 A02? No! No way! It must
> be
something unexpected.
>
>
> Fine print: z196 was indeed 96-cp one. 80 for customer and SAPs, and
spares. And z114 has 14 processors: 10 for OS and 2 SAPs and 2 spares. Of
course it is about maximum quantities.
>
> --
> Radoslaw Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland
>
>
>
> W dniu 02.03.2023 o 18:33, Mike Shorkend pisze:
>>
>> I still use the BC/EC nomenclature for lack of a better one.
>> It comes down to the number of CPs you can have. The z15-T01("EC")
>> has up to 190 general processors while the z15-T02("BC") is limited
>> to 6. It
goes
>> back to the number of possible drawers on the CEC.
>>
>> Traditionally, the BC machines have many more sub capacity settings
>> compared with EC. You can dial the processors from A to Z , so 26
>> different capacity settings per CP.
>> The EC machines have much less granularity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 19:13, Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> IBM dropped the EC/BC nomenclature, much to my chagrin. I'm
>>> guessing
I'm
>>> not the only one that still refers to the big one as the EC and the
smaller
>>> sibling as the BC, even though IBM doesn't.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
>>> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:04 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Z15 EOM
>>>
>>> Didn't IBM drop the BC vs. EC notation a while ago? I've been
>>> calling them water-cooled vs. air-cooled. The number of frames is
>>> obviously confusing, along with air-cooled model numbers T02 and A01
>>> (and I assume
>>> A02 on the way) which look like speed/cp settings.
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2023 6:43 AM, P H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The slide 91 is NOT the z16 'mid-range/business class' system.
Depending
>>>
>>> on the configuration the z16 'high end' system, as announced, comes
>>> in
1,
>>> 2, 3 or 4 racks.l!
>>>>
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>>>> Subject: Re: Z15 EOM
>>>>
>>>> "The one rack z16 (aka Business Class) has not yet been announced,"
>>>>
>>>> It already exists. See slide 91.
>>>>
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