Good morning Peter, SNOBOL?? Geeze that takes me way back. I had a smile and had to call some old colleagues.
Thank you! …….Cameron OOO – March 28, 29, 30 and 31. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value] I am getting increasingly tired of snide or outright dismissive references to COBOL and by extension to COBOL programmers. Programmers like me. Yes, I am also well versed in HLASM, Rexx, awk and gawk, somewhat facile in SORT (at least as far as knowing and using JOIN's), SQL, JCL and various other z/OS utilities, MetalC, and lately python and bash scripting. I even remember some of the PL/I and Fortran and Pascal I used in college and my early employment days. I even remember some SNOBOL, which I actually got to use productively at a then-major NY bank very early in my career. COBOL pays my bills and keeps my employer operating successfully and profitably. COBOL does NOT rot the brain. Alcohol and various other legal and illegal substances can, in fact, do that. Intelligently devising business solutions to business problems in ANY computer language does NOT rot the brain. It is not funny or acceptable to say so. It never was. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 8:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ASM call by value On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:18:49 +0000, Frank Swarbrick wrote: <Snipped> >In COBOL, for example, the following end up doing the same thing. > Do not use CO BOL as an exemplar of programming discipline. Cobol rots the brain. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ________________________________ American Express made the following annotations ________________________________ This e-mail was sent to you by a representative of Amex Bank of Canada, P.O. Box 3204, Station "F", Toronto, ON, M1W 3W7, www.americanexpress.ca. If you no longer wish to receive these e-mails, please notify the sender by reply e-mail. This e-mail is solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments. Thank you. American Express a fait les remarques suivantes Ce courriel vous a été envoyé par un représentant de la Banque Amex du Canada, C.P. 3204, succursale F, Toronto (Ontario) M1W 3W7, www.americanexpress.ca. Si, par la suite, vous ne souhaitez plus recevoir ces courriels, veuillez en aviser les expéditeurs par courriel. Ce courriel est réservé au seul destinataire indiqué et peut renfermer des renseignements confidentiels et privilégiés. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire prévu, toute divulgation, duplication, utilisation ou distribution du courriel est interdite. Si vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l’expéditeur par courriel et détruire immédiatement le courriel et toute pièce jointe. Merci. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN