> On 9 Aug 2023, at 3:08 pm, kekronbekron > <000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Thanks for your notes. > > On more compilers - when working through a transition, intermediates are a > small price to pay. > In the end xlclang and regular clang (which will have zOS bits upstreamed) > may be the only two remaining. > > zoslib has been available for a few years now..
Have you used it? > What is a thunk routine? https://github.com/ibmruntimes/zoslib/blob/cc10b7c1d6211a2c28b10b540bf406c7148fbf4f/src/zos.cc#L1892 > Thread-local-storage must be coming… It’s my understanding that it requires binder work so I wouldn’t expect it any time soon. > as I believe it's available with xlclang. I would no if it did. We’ve discussed this with the IBM compiler team in ISV technical disclosure meetings. There are library implementations that use pthreads. https://github.com/ibmruntimes/zoslib/blob/main/src/zos-tls.cc > > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Wednesday, August 9th, 2023 at 12:28 PM, David Crayford > <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> As if we didn’t already have enough z/OS C/C++ compilers :) >> >> I've recently been working on Python bindings for z/OS products and wanted >> to share some useful notes. IBM recently released the IBM C/C++ for Open >> Enterprise Languages on z/OS compiler [1], a free version of IBM Open XL >> C/C++, which is a port of LLVM/clang. This compiler can only be used for >> open source. For example, to build Python, Node, go packages that require a >> build phase when installed or contributing to z/OS open source projects. >> It's important to note that the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler is not compatible >> with XL C/C++ or xlclang compilers. This incompatibility may pose >> challenges. Python 3.11 is developed using IBM Open XL C/C++, while Python >> 3.10 uses xlclang. As a result, binary packages created for Python 3.10 >> won't work with the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler. >> To overcome this issue, the recommended solution is to build Python >> distributions that include the source C/C++ code. During the installation >> process using pip, this code can be built. There are a few issues with the >> new compiler. Firstly, there is no support for "OS" linkage, meaning no >> #pragma linkage(module,OS) or extern 'OS' {}. Custom thunk routines need to >> be written to address this. Additionally, the compiler supports inline >> assembly, but the -qasmlib=<macro-library> option is not available, making >> macros unusable. A workaround I found is to assemble some HLASM code and >> copy-paste from the listing. >> >> Moreover, the runtime library is not entirely compatible with XL C/C++. I >> discovered that the __amrc structure is missing, which breaks my pzfile >> package and makes accessing VSAM files nearly impossible. I plan to open a >> case with IBM to address this issue. >> Another limitation is that the compiler does not produce source/assembly >> listings. Furthermore, thread level storage is not supported, which >> complicates the process of porting certain libraries. >> >> On a positive note, IBM has open-sourced their zoslib library [2], which >> assists in porting applications to z/OS. There is a lot of useful function >> in this library. It supports dynamically loading and calling modules using >> thunk routines. Unfortunately, there is a comment in the code which states >> it only works with xlclang. The library is Apache 2.0 licensed but it has >> IBM copyright. I'm not a lawyer so I'm unsure of the legalities of using >> this library for product code. >> >> [1] >> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cloud-paks/z-modernization-stack/2023.2?topic=languages-cc-open-enterprise-zos >> [2] https://github.com/ibmruntimes/zoslib >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAINz > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN