I used the generic term DS8000, but I don't recall the exact device type. I
think that, as other mentioned, the point is that you do not need to access
the mainframe itself in order to damage the data.

ITschak

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On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:50 AM Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:

> Well, I will be the one to call this story BS.
>
> You can not run that script remote without the Remote-CE option enabled.
> And, that option was not available until the DS8870. And, to run it you
> have to first log in as CE. A password that should have been changed at
> installation.
>
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> ITschak Mugzach wrote on 8/12/23 4:45 PM:
> > Agree. my point is that a mainframe is just another server and that
> > you don't need to login into to damage the data.
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > ITschak Mugzach
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> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:35 PM Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:
> >
> >> The long periods of bad guy access are typical. You read most of the
> >> breach stories the attack unfolded over weeks or months. The hackers
> talk
> >> about pwning (owning) a group of servers.
> >>
> >> CM
> >>
> >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 16:13:12 -0400, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ITschak Mugzach wrote, in part:
> >>>> Remember that when pirate bay penetrated Logica, he had
> >>>> no clue on mainframes, but was able to stay for almost 1.5 years.
> >>>
> >>> This falls into the category of "things I just don't get": if that had
> >> been me, I'd've woken up every single morning wondering if this was the
> day
> >> that my access would be gone, and whether there was about to be a loud
> >> knock on the door (at least). Yes, I know, this wasn't in the U.S. so
> the
> >> cops would have been less violent, but still-if I were out committing
> >> crimes, I'd want them to be over as soon as possible so I could
> continue on
> >> with my life, knowing that there was some chance of evidence leading to
> me,
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