I learned that in 1981 during Assembler class.

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On Sunday, September 3, 2023, 8:31 PM, Doug Fuerst <d...@bkassociates.net> 
wrote:

Assembler is not machine language.

Doug Fuerst


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>From "Bernd Oppolzer" <bernd.oppol...@t-online.de>
To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date 9/3/2023 17:16:05 PM
Subject Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

>+1
>
>and I believe, I said virtually the same before, that makes 2 persons 😀
>
>
>Am 03.09.2023 um 22:41 schrieb g...@gabegold.com:
>>That "one person's experience" was widely shared among the VM community -- 
>>hundreds of people collectively helping their installations benefit from what 
>>assembler language enables.
>>
>>You might consider taking your own advice: 1 persons experience doesn’t prove 
>>anything.
>>
>>"The fact is..." is an assertion, not a fact. It's contradicted by a great 
>>many people who've used assembler to advance careers and benefit their 
>>employers.
>>
>>Given the number of critical bugs fixed by customers, and the number of 
>>customer system enhancements merged into IBM product code, sometimes NOT 
>>"making changes to delivered software" can be dangerous.
>>
>>Assembler -- machine language -- is what actually executes, no matter what 
>>high-level language or utility uses/produces it. So understanding it helps 
>>understand much broader concepts.
>>
>>Your not encountering it among your colleagues might speak more about you and 
>>your colleagues than assembler language itself.
>>
>>Why advocate ignorance of a fundamental part of the platform for which you're 
>>such a relentless cheerleader?
>>
>>This is a silly argument -- you dismiss and deprecate something you never 
>>learned; that's an uninformed position to take, no matter how many colleagues 
>>you've met in your many, many jobs.
>>
>>Surely it's a specialized skill -- which you never acquired -- but that 
>>doesn't make it unimportant.
>>
>>On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:37:39 +0000, Bill Johnson <mellonb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>1 persons experience doesn’t prove anything ...
>
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