Getting back on-topic,...

 AI may easily surpass humans in the ability to analyze and deduce conclusions from a large amount of data and propose actions -- it already has in a number of areas.  One problem that arises in that there is a considerable amount of data loose in the real world that is misinformation, and too much garbage-in still produces garbage-out.  That many humans have problems telling the different between fact and fiction, have biases on choices of data, and humans will be choosing the sources of data to program the AI will inevitably cause some problems.

The general public is already displaying an indifference to the limitations of AI and abusing AI:  asking questions of AI apps in areas for which the AI is poorly trained and trusting fallible responses as being authoritative because they are produced by a machine.

The real problems and dangers of unregulated AI become clear if and when AI is given the power to make and implement life and death decisions without adequate human oversight, or to propose actions that humans might blindly follow in a life or death situation.  The science fiction genre is full of plots that suggest how badly this can go.

When you grant AI the power to make decisions and take actions in the real world, most of us want not just intelligence involved, but also wisdom and morality.  Most want decisions that can impact their lives to be constrained by a moral compass of what is right and fair.   We have no idea how to build that awareness into AI; and since there may be no general agreement on whose standard of morality to use, that may be an impossible task.  Even if there were agreement on the morality that should be designed into AI, and an understanding of how to do it, do we trust fallible humans to implement it without error?

We need to be very cautious for the short and long term about what kinds of decisions and actions we entrust to AI.

A legitimate concern is that if future AI regulation or its enforcement is inadequate, some individual or corporation with more power & money than wisdom may go rogue, ignore whatever AI restrictions are in place, and create a dangerous AI, just because they believe it will enhance their short-term profit.

    JC Ewing

On 9/15/23 13:50, Ituriel do Neto wrote:
I don't believe we are having this kind of discussion here.


Best Regards

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
z/OS System Programmer






Em sexta-feira, 15 de setembro de 2023 às 15:34:14 BRT, Bill Johnson 
<00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu:





Are you that naive? Ever been to Share? The current makeup of mainframe systems 
programmers is 65% white, 15% Asian, 9% Hispanic & 5% African American. 
Factoring in most of the heavy posters are over 50, the demographics are even more 
white since almost all systems programmers who got into IT in the 50’s through the 
70’s were almost exclusively white. Guess what? I can also tell which people are 
Jewish, Asian, Hispanic, Scandinavian, Irish, and most other ethnicities. That’s 
not nearly as easy but it’s not as difficult as you’d think. I’d bet Oujeski isn’t 
a black guy. My Father in Law’s name was Majewski.

Almost all IT workers back then were men too. Ever notice the absence of female 
posters here?


A simple check from the bureau of labor statistics from the 50's, 60's, and 
70's is quite the fantasy buster I need.



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On Friday, September 15, 2023, 12:55 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

Only in your fantasy world is it possible to tell the skin color of an e-mail 
poster whom you have never met. I have you reason to believe that your 
antagonists are mostly White, and no reason to believe your implicit claim not 
to be. For all I know, you might be a klan member lying about his skin color.

Now, statistically, it's likely that most of the US posters calling you out are 
White, but this is an international list.

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So no problem with his attack on me, but I retaliate and it’s banning time. 
This is a white frat boy cult site. Nobody dares challenge the hierarchy.


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On Friday, September 15, 2023, 12:00 PM, Michael Oujesky 
<reflect...@oujesky.net> wrote:

It appears it is well past time to remove Bill from IBM-MAIN.



At 02:26 PM 9/14/2023, Bill Johnson wrote:

It's already passed yours.


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On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel
<00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Yours included?

On 2023-09-14 13:29, Bill Johnson wrote:
AI will surpass human intelligence.


https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/14/softbanks-masayoshi-son-says-tech-can-surpass-human-intelligence.html

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Joel C. Ewing

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