With the z/OS Open Tools you don't need to use zopen, or any front-end, to 
install any of their ports.

For example, here is a direct link to the curl port 
https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools/curlport


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Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

I find having to have an entire front-end to install something that can just be 
expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill.



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> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1: 59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbdyck@ GMAIL. COM> wrote: 
> > > You can get another port of curl from https: //urldefense. 
> com/v3/__https: //zosopentools. github. 
> io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZ
> o3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$


> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You can get another port of curl from 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/*/__;I
> w!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-Y
> cuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$
> and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda.

If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems 
occur using zopen and GitHub with Github tokens?

I don’t find using zopen to be easier to use then conda. It’s certainly nowhere 
near as powerful, for example, virtual environments. I like zopen but I find 
having to source .env files a PITA and slow when configured in profile scripts. 
Using conda is just like using homebrew on my Mac. Hat’s off the z/OS Open 
Tools devs for getting something working well enough with only shell scripts.

>
> We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.com/channels/8803224716083
> 44597/1118254421202182185__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf3e-1v2I$
>  and you're welcome to join us.
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <><
> Website: 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b
> 6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqb
> EMfgyiqFe5WlfHGqYwrU$
> Github: 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6w
> hF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEM
> fgyiqFe5Wlfg7_GH4U$
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations
>
> All,
>
> I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment.   I
> downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage.
> We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to 
> get that to work.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to download the needed “repository” that 
> miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install?
>
> Dave Jousma
>
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