Thanks for the feedback Dave (and RS). I wish Rocket still had download links 
to the tarballs, or even better, pax files. I find this particularly useful 
when downloading new versions of Python from IBM, albeit once I’ve had to go 
through a couple of web forms to eventually get the link URL so I can curl it 
down. 

I’ll feed it back to the PT team. 

> On 4 Nov 2023, at 7:44 am, Jousma, David 
> <000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> We do pay for GIT client support through IBM, which I realize is actually 
> rocket support behind the scenes.    cURL used to come packaged with GIT 
> client but was removed with IBM ptf.
> 
> I was able to just go to the public anaconda website, and download the cURL 
> tarball, upload it, and expand it and clone it where needed.   Our Jenkins 
> pipeline needs it.
> 
> Dave Jousma
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
> David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 7:01:11 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 10: 32 pm, Paul Gilmartin <0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-request@ 
>> LISTSERV. UA. EDU> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19: 42: 15 +0800, David 
>> Crayford wrote: >> >> Yes. But you still need the internet .. . >>
> 
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 10:32 pm, Paul Gilmartin 
>> <0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19:42:15 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. But you still need the internet ...
>>> 
>> What's the alternative?  Railway Express?  Dialup modem?
> 
> A lot of customers air-gap their mainframe systems so you can’t use package 
> managers. Colin Paice opened an issue for my pyzfile Python package to 
> document installation methods on air-gapped systems 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/discussion/reading-an-mvs-dataset-using-z-open-automation-utility__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!nVlHVMjwgMI8doNcGXgOJIwnci0yoWLQREmOo_7c-J1hWzEQQaXiHBinMK7zqEFHNnMuAhcKDi1m24hwsjs$.
> 
> Dave Jousma seems to have found a solution to his problem. Rocket provide an 
> off-line channel for ported tools but it’s only available to customers with 
> commercial support, in which case you have the choice of SMP/E. Most 
> customers that are using ported tools for critical work, such as Git, have 
> commercial support. Z/OS Open Tools is a great alternative if you only 
> require free tools. They have ported tools not available from Rocket, such as 
> nano, which most ISPF users will find easier to use then vim.
> 
>> 
>> --
>> gil
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