James,

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you here.  I think the "opening up" of 
z/OS (and VSE,VM etc) via TCP/IP extended the life of the machine and OSes.  At 
the time VTAM communications was in its heyday, the rest of the world was 
dealing with baud rates over RS232 dumb terminals.  Once TCP/IP took over the 
ASCII world communication-wise, IBM had to either adapt or die.  Fortunately 
for my career and many others, IBM adapted and brought the mainframe OSes into 
intercommunicability with the rest of the computing world.

It's OK if we don't agree on this, lets just not turn this into a flame war, 
please.  😊

Rex

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Please don't kid yourself ;-)

The mainframe died the moment tcpip was introduced and it became "just another 
server" in the sea of servers.


Distraughted

James

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