looks like an ICSF (CSF) issue.

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:24 PM Jousma, David <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Look at the pre-IPL TCPIP STC output, and compare to current.
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> It was the messages in and around here that were bad
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> System SSL: SHA-1 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: SHA-224 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: SHA-256 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: SHA-384 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: SHA-512 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: DES crypto assist is available
> System SSL: DES3 crypto assist is available
> System SSL: AES 128-bit crypto assist is available
> System SSL: AES 256-bit crypto assist is available
> System SSL: AES-GCM crypto assist is available
> System SSL: Cryptographic accelerator is not available
> System SSL: Cryptographic coprocessor is available
> System SSL: Public key hardware support is available
> System SSL: Max RSA key sizes in hardware - signature 4096, encryption
> 4096, verification 4096
> System SSL: ECC secure key support is available. Maximum key size 521
> System SSL: ICSF Secure key PKCS11 support is not available
> System SSL: ICSF FMID is HCR77E0
> EZZ0162I HOST NAME FOR TCPIP IS hmsystk2
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> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, April 14, 2025 at 2:17 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: GSK question
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> Thanks. This might be the answer, though I may not be able to tell.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> Of Jousma, David
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> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2025 2:11 PM
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> To: [email protected]
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> Subject: Re: GSK question
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> AFAIK, there is no shutting off SYSTEM SSL.
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> Years ago, and a few generations of Crypto adapters ago, we IPL’d before
> Crypto adapters were fully initialized (there is a time factor when
> installing MCL’s), and System SSL was “broken” from a TCPIP perspective.
>  The fix was to recycle TCPIP, we elected to IPL, because the cycle of
> TCPIP was just about as invasive.    This caused us all kinds of problems
> and it took a bit to track down that TCPIP came up before crypto was
> available.
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> I have no idea if this exposure still exists, but to this day, we still
> wait for crypto adapters to be fully initialized before we IPL anything.
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> Dave Jousma
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
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> Date: Monday, April 14, 2025 at 1:55 PM
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> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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> Subject: GSK question
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> Is there a way to turn off GSK (System SSL)? We have a customer who had a
> problem where our STC suddenly wouldn't start: it would try to connect (to
> a server off z/OS) and that would fail. Connectivity SEEMED ok otherwise,
> and of course "nothing has changed". A gsktrace produced nothing. After
> some back-and-forth, they reIPLed and now it's fine. (Which I 50% wish they
> hadn't done, so we could get more info; and am 50% glad they did, of
> course, since it fixed the problem!)
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> All I can think is that GSK was broken somehow. If there was a
> GSKsomething STC I'd kill that and try, see if I got the same symptoms, but
> there isn't. Is it just baked into TCP/IP? Any other ideas about something
> I can kill that would break GSK? I can do anything I want on our system and
> then reIPL if needed.
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> Thanks for any ideas.
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