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On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:41 PM Paul Gilmartin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 14:04:28 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> >Cite?
> >
> Does this apply?:
> <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=command-keyword-operands>
>
> Some of this is hard to indicate in BNF.
>
> But I agree with your earlier statement that the
> syntax diagram has no path with both CATALOG and DELETE.
>
> >________________________________________
> >Fro :  Mike Schwab <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2025 8:37 AM
> >
> >Syntax diagram as dwawn also requires specification in a particular order.
> >In reality, any keyword can be specified in any order.  Duplicates or
> >conflicts are handled by the last one controls.
> >
> >On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 7:03 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
> >
> >> "that tells you it's a non-repeatable choice which is very different
> from
> >> mutually exclusive." is total BS. There is no path from the opening
> double
> >> arrow to the closing double arrow that goes through both. Eunix  is a
> red
> >> herring.
> >>>>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: >> of Jon Perryman
> >> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2025 1:01 AM
> >>
> >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:49:04 -0500, Paul Gilmartin > wrote:
> >>
> >> >The syntax diagram in: <
> >> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=command-allocate-syntax>
> >> >says that CATALOG and DELETE are mutually exclusive?
> >>
> >> ROTFLOL! typical UNIX mentality. Completely ignores section "How to read
> >> the TSO/E command syntax" that tells you it's a non-repeatable choice
> which
> >> is very different from mutually exclusive. Only the last choice will be
> >> used. ln the case of "catalog delete", catalog is ignored.
> >>
> >> >Would you care to submit a Feedback?  Would IBM care to address it?
> >>
> >> ROTFLOL! The pot calling the kettle black. Unix doesn't bother
> documenting
> >> mutually exclusive command options and worse yet, is not consistent
> (e.g.
> >> rm -iffi versus ls -AaaA). Maybe you should help Unix fix its appalling
> >> errors before complaining about IBM!
> >>
> >> >"Well. everybody knows what it means," is not suitable response
> >> >to a report of a documentation error.
> >>
> >> ROTFLOL! Let's pretend IBM didn't have that section. Everyone knows what
> >> it means because it consistently used where appropriate. When working in
> >> Unix, consistency is a pipe dream.
> >>
> >> >Does that diagram also improperly constrain the order of options?
> >>
> >> Unix confession through projection with no diagrams nor order of options
> >> and rarely documenting mutually exclusive.
>
> --
> gil
>
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