On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 18:08:37 -0400, Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote:

>This is...interesting, but what is the goal? Or is it just an interest 
>project? (Nothing wrong with that!)
>
>Another "interest project": Way back in 2000, Adam Thornton fired up Linux 
>under VM/ESA on a P/390. In Linux, he ran Bochs. In Bochs, he ran Windows. In 
>Windows, he ran Exchange.
>
>Well, maybe "ran" isn't the right word: more like "crawled". But it DID come 
>up. Eventually. On modern hardware, might even be tolerable!


I just realized something - you might have the wrong idea
of what z/OS PCDOS is. This is not emulation. It runs
applications natively on z/Arch. ie full speed.

The applications are not MVS executables though. They
are z/PDOS-generic executables. I do happen to use
the MVS load module format though. But that's not very
important because I have my own loader, so could have
used a different format. And indeed, I intend to use
PE/COFF format for z/OS Windows.

But once the executable is loaded, regardless of format,
it is directly executed. There is no emulation. There isn't
even a VM (which also means that if there are any bugs
in your application, it can crash z/OS PCDOS, ie the
EXEC PGM=BIOS will get a S0C4 or whatever). The lack
of VM means I don't need privilege.

ie any MVS end user can install this software and have
an EBCDIC FAT32 system running .exe files at full z/Arch
speed. With long filenames too (although you can't see
that in the "dir" display currently, because it has been
implemented in a crude manner to focus on important
technical things).

BFN. Paul.

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