The original MFT, with SHIFT and WAITR, was a dog's breakfast, but things were 
a lot better with MFT II. 

Yes, the early releases of TSS were bad, but so were the early releases of 
OS/360.

-- 
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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> I always considered VIO a hack. what I really wanted was for IBM to
> steal ideas from TSS and MULTICS.

Coming from the IBSYS, PS108, and PR-155 world, I considered PCP & MFT & 
later-MVT (without HASP) as a direction to making a mess.  (And this was with  
2311 volumes). HASP made the whole system work much better!  (I was working 
with one of the early users of HASP.)

For various reasons I was also involved with early TSS. The goals were nice 
but, for practical use, it needed at least 1 MB memory and that was very 
expensive in those days. In the early TSS days VAM worked, but with lots of 
questions, especially for those (like me) that liked to work at a lower 
assembly level. For the very few customers who had both the patience (over 
multiple years) and the money/connections to acquire more than 1MB for their 
360/67, TSS was probably interesting. It certainly established many details 
that moved into OS/360, etc.

It is always nice/interesting/diverting to show one's skills by trying to 
rework history. However, it is even more interesting if one first tries to 
establish the existing mindset/environment/goals/budgets of those historic 
years before proceeding to rework them!

Bill Ogden


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