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________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of René Jansen <0000088819809a41-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 6:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: Pipelines = you don't understand z/OS External Message: Use Caution Thanks for providing that link, but I see now where some of the unclarity comes from. I have another manual which describes TSO Pipes, GC28-1651, and I cannot find that online anywhere so now I really need to scan that. In current CMS Pipelines documentation (looking at z/VM 7.1 from 2020 at least), there is this message included for z/OS support: Level 1.1.9 of TSO Pipelines shipped under the name BatchPipeWorks* as part of BatchPipes/MVS and subsequently SmartBatch/MVS, IBM Program Number 5655-A17, but those products are no longer marketed by IBM. I'll try to have that SmartBatch manual available somewhere soon, for historical purposes. I am certain that it got nowhere just because nobody knew about it. I always considered myself lucky to have worked for a company that shelled out tens of K's for things I found interesting, having seen it on VM; I don't think anybody else there ever used it. I find the assumptions in the subject header and the combative aversion to Unix very peculiar; this way of discussing issues is a certain way to alienate every decision maker against z/OS and mainframes; and this attitude seen here and there must also have hurt Linux on Z deployments, which is really great stuff (Linux on Z with ooRexx there, thanks to RexxLA). best regards, René. > On 10 Sep 2025, at 01:54, Farley, Peter > <0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Interesting. I definitely missed the section of the manual that tells how to > use BatchPipeWorks for other than BatchPipes-type processing. At the time I > was involved, the POC was to see if BatchPipes processing could help us > reduce elapsed batch processing time, so that was our focus. > > BTW, the manual is still freely available from IBM here: > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_2.5.0/pdf/asf1a210.pdf > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > Glenn Knickerbocker > Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 7:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Pipelines = you don't understand z/OS > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 19:05:51 -0400, Phil Smith III <mailto:li...@akphs.com> > wrote: >> Ya know, I remember hearing "There's an old version of Pipelines hiding in >> that BatchPipes" back in the day. This suggests that you're both sort of >> right (René "more righter"): it was there but not obvious, and thus is >> perhaps not a good example of folks using/opting not to use Pipes. > > It's confusing to talk about because it's two separate, disparate pieces: > > BatchPipes is the pipeline connecting different jobs--and/or systems? I've > never had access to play with that piece and know nothing about it. > > BatchPipeWorks is CMS/TSO Pipelines level 1109001A included with BatchPipes. > > ¬R > -- > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If > the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
