I have started telling recruiters that my inflation adjusted rate is $120/Hr 
because i refuse to make less than I did in 1990


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> On Feb 5, 2026, at 13:10, Steve Beaver <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I saw that one too. TLMS I didn’t think was still in use
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>> On Feb 5, 2026, at 13:09, Steve Beaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> When Indian recruiters call now I start by saying unless you are offering 
>> $120/Hr W2 then you do not need to be talking to me and you need to tell 
>> your managers that you are getting push back on the low rates. If we ALL 
>> push back all at the same time recruiters and companies will get the point
>> 
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>>>> On Feb 5, 2026, at 12:33, Pommier, Rex 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Another issue related to this is the fact that some (many/most??) US firms 
>>> won't hire independent contractors.  They require a contractor be hired 
>>> through an agency.  Lets see, less money for the worker, more money coming 
>>> out of the company's coffers.  Lose, lose proposition.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>>> Mike Beer
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2026 12:08 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] mainframe skills - was cross posted
>>> 
>>> This problem is not restricted to US projects.
>>> 
>>> I recently was contacted for an Austrian banking project with specific 
>>> mainframe skills plus agile experience (SCRUM master) plus JAVA development.
>>> This skill set is rare - the recruiting firm offered EUR 60/hour.
>>> This is ridiculous - on the other hand this bank's software keeps crashing 
>>> very often. So they will have cheap people, but not the necessary skills.
>>> 
>>> And I agree, most - but not all - recruiters have no clue what they are 
>>> talking about.
>>> 
>>> IBM does not really help to keep the mainframe business - instead of 
>>> promoting the stability of mission critical infrastructure, everything is 
>>> AI.
>>> It is good to have at least some people who know what they are doing, 
>>> instead of having to ask ChatGPT for every task.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Im Auftrag 
>>> von Steve Thompson
>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2026 17:55
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: Cross Posted
>>> 
>>> Before anyone starts arguments on supply and demand and capitalism, free 
>>> market and the like, (again) understand this:
>>> 
>>> What Steve and I and others like us are running into is a large number of 
>>> recruiter/ing firms who are all trying to get the same contracts. So to get 
>>> the account, they quote low.
>>> 
>>> Then on DICE, INDEED, Monster and the others (some of these are being 
>>> bought and merged), but the end effect is offering rates that are below 
>>> what we were making about 1990 and that is NOT adjusted for inflation.
>>> 
>>> Add to this that the majority of the people contacting me do not know how 
>>> JES2 or JES3 is pronounced. They don't know most of the acronyms we use in 
>>> the industry. They can't read a tech based resume to understand that one is 
>>> not a sysprog, but is a software developer.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to get us on a level playing field before the noise starts.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve Thompson
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 2/5/2026 10:43 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
>>>> For the US people, I have been beat to death looking for zOS DB2
>>>> Systems DBA’s and people that know ACF2, RACF, and TSS
>>>> 
>>>> These skills are RARE.  Doing my research Recruiters at offering $60
>>>> per hour where the honest labor rate should be $150 per hour or higher
>>>> 
>>>> My suggestion is that if you have any of these skills. Tell the
>>>> Recruiter $150/Hr or go away
>>>> 
>>>> As a data point. They pay you $60 per hour and they charge the
>>>> customer $150 per hour
>>>> 
>>>> 
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