Let’s not feed the troll any more please.  He may or may not be correct in his 
diatribes, but it is not productive for us to continue this conversation.

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Eric Rossman
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2026 12:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CDW - Three new Mainframe Openings


Assembler is still worth learning and colleges do definitely still teach it. 
Maybe not as much, but definitely still taught. Anyone who claims otherwise is 
mistaken. How else would people create compilers?



Latin, is another thing. English is about 1/3 from French, so that would be the 
language I would suggest.



Eric Rossman

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z/OS Security

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Dick Williams

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2026 11:57 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CDW - Three new Mainframe Openings



The 1 example proof. lol Almost zero colleges teach assembler. Because demand 
for that skill is shrinking and almost nonexistent. Maybe you guys should learn 
hieroglyphics.





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On Tuesday, February 24, 2026, 11:53 AM, Jay Maynard 
<[email protected]> wrote:





Tell that to our junior sysprog, who came out of NIU having learned assembler...



On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 10:28 AM Dick Williams < 
[email protected]> wrote:



> lol even the expert a couple of years ago said Assembler was dying.

> Every fact says it’s dying. Schools don’t even teach it any more.

> Almost zero job openings ask for it. But, you keep believing. SMH

>

>

> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

>

>

> On Tuesday, February 24, 2026, 11:25 AM, Len Rugen <

> [email protected]> wrote:

>

>

> I remember the stares from the younger generation when I pulled out my

> yellow 1976 System/370 reference card to show them the bit patterns of

> a

> 255.255.255.128 netmask :-)

>

>

> Len Rugen

>

> rugenl at yahoo.com

>

> GPG Public Key

>

>

>    On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 09:34:10 AM CST, Pommier, Rex <

>[email protected]> wrote:

>

>  This could easily be flipped the other way too.  "I don't use it

>therefore it isn't important".

>

>

> > On 24 Feb 2026, at 16:00, Dick Williams <

> [email protected]> wrote:

> >

> > The “I use it so it must be important” syndrome. I would never

> > recommend

> learning it to anyone. A complete waste of time. Like learning Latin.

> >

> >

> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

> >

> >

> > On Tuesday, February 24, 2026, 12:21 AM, Brian Westerman <

> [email protected]> wrote:

> >

> > Nope, I use it most every day at at least a few of the sites I manage.

> >

> > Unless you are at a totally vanilla shop, I think assembler is a

> necessity.

> >

> > Brian

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