I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of
vacation sometime during the year.  Makes sure other people can do you
job and that no funny accounting is going on.

On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
<shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote:
> In
> <8124033304576715.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>,
> on 09/26/2013
>    at 01:19 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za>
> said:
>
>>Indeed. In a mature Data Centre, such overtime may or may not be
>>frowned on, but you know there are exceptions and of course
>>changes needed to be done after hours.
>
> In my experience, super long shifts are expected for emergencies,
> either real or simulated. In that situation, sleep deprivation will
> impair your judgement, which is why management should step in and
> order you to rest even if you think that you can keep going. Providing
> three hots and a cut can reduce the length of an outage. Oh, and good
> managers will order everybody out who is not contributing to the
> solution[1]; they can wait until the system is back up before doing
> their post mortem.
>
> Changes can be scheduled to avoid excessive overtime. Typically I've
> seen a 4 hour window on weekdays and a longer window on weekends, but
> I've never been at a shop that expected a 24-hour or longer shift for
> routine maintenance.
>
>>I don't have any confirmed proof, but apparently the Japanese people
>>are FORCED to have leave to take a break every year.
>
> I really dislike the combination of forced leave and unpaid overtime.
> There's also the question of who decides when the leave is to be
> taken.
>
> [1] I've seen it done, and it really speeds up problem resolution
>     when you don't have to keep explaining what happened, what
>     you're doing about it and when the system will be back up.
>     "Are we there yet?"
>
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>      Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
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