Sounds like a VSAM database.  Just a key and data area, meanings are
what you assign to them, no database catalog to define the individual
fields.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Ze'ev Atlas <zatl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Since NoSQL seems to be reigning supreme, I decided to study MongoDB which 
> was both recommended by a friend (a PM who is managing an actual project with 
> that stuff) and is the most popular NoSQL engine out there according to 
> http://db-engines.com/en/ranking (they don't count Hadoop since they 
> considered it to be a file system.)
> As usual, I acquired the book (O'Reilly - mongodb the definitive guide) and 
> began to read...
>
> And here is why I post it here, I have the sense of deja vu all over again!
>
> Forget about the fancy terminology of storing "Documents" rather then rows or 
> records.  In the end it is the same.  They have all the CRUD actions (i.e. 
> Create, Remove, Update and Delete) which are done via some API functions 
> rather then SQL statements.  They can index and access stuff fast.  They can 
> partition the database over many servers and thus scale out... all is good.
>
> But here is the real scoop!  No Joins and if you want to store some row... 
> er... document of different structure that relate to the current one, you'd 
> rather store it as a sub document (i.e. a different structure that is part of 
> your current row (i.e. hierarchical) or in a different collection that you 
> should navigate into in the application side.
>
> Mmm, have I just used the words navigate, hierarchical, etc.  No wonder that 
> all those younger people are so excited about NoSQL, they have never seen it 
> before.  But we, veterans of IMS, IDMS, ADABAS and the like, our old skills 
> are new again!
>
> Welcome back to the future.
>
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> BTW, I do not bad mouth the technology, it is very useful (as were IMS and 
> IDMS) and I can see replacing all warehouses and Star Schemas with that 
> stuff, it is more natural, faster and more scalable then the current SQL 
> based warehouse technologies.
>
> ZA
>
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